The Xunlai Marketplace thread

fog_of_redoubt

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25 Jan 2008 at 20:50 - 281
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
I hope you see what I am getting at. I am not trying to make everyone "calm down". I am trying to provide a point of contention among the masses that seem to be accepting this as fact. If I see some shred of evidence, I would love to join the hype. I am not trolling, I am looking for something more than internet heebeejeebies (technical term). I trust the blank box of personality that is the internet about as far as I can trust to beat it in a race across the country.
So what constitutes a "shred" of evidence to you?

Numerous unrelated people have found the text, it seems to be "fresh" based on some of the specifics. There seems to also be multiple languages.

If you think all of this is internet heebeejeebies, I would suggest to you that everything they have posted is verifiable BY YOU. If you are too lazy to do that then don't claim there is no proof.

So, you aren't going to look for yourself.

You don't believe what has been posted.

What do you need as proof? Confirmation from ANet? That isn't proof, that is confirmation. Do you need someone to invite you to their house so you can see the dat file for yourself? Do you need to see the marketplace in action? Not proof either, then it is fact.

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25 Jan 2008 at 21:06 - 282
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
If I see some shred of evidence
If you don't see why a string in the .dat file is a proof of something, then I think you don't know enough about computing. I'm not going to give you a crashing course here and put this thread on the wrong rails. Read the "post what you found in gwdat!" thread instead.

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 21:25 - 283
Fog: If I said I was made of cake, does that prove anything. If then someone named IAMINTERNET said, "yep, he is made of cake", would you be confident in my "fact"?

I want some sort of evidence. I have been throwing around the word "proof" incorrectly, I well correct for that by being as semantically correct as possible by using "evidence" instead. This all is based about what people have TYPED. I can type anything. I am a piece of cake typing on a keyboard. See?

A screenshot is not AS maleable, and multiple screenshots from various sources would help me want to "believe". I do in fact WANT to be convinced. Gaile would be the best, but that hasn't happened yet. Please, realize that I am not trying to debunk this, because guess what (oh and Fril you are not being left out of this post for sure), I can't get into the .dat as of now or probably ever will get the chance/time to. I am technically feasible to. Sony claims they have a 1/4th inch thick LCD panel. I believe this because I saw it working and pictures to go along with the statement. Anyone who has done any real research knows how this works. It really helps your position when you provide some sort of backing evidence other than, "I totally saw it, trust me", no matter how many people agree.

For example, remember the insanity of the Polar Bear? People like Zinger were claiming the screenshot was fake because he/she "knew" the pixels were off. Doesn't he feel kind of dumb? Multiple people making a statement unverified is not a reason to "prove" something (hate using that word but it suffices here).

The findings in the .dat thread are excellent, they post up the art, which although not verifyable, is some sort of evidence. The text stuff is harder, trust me, I know quite a bit of computers so I would say it is, but a screen shot of the process, the converted text file, other than copy paste would be exceedingly useful. I don't need a step by step, thats for personal verification, I just want some evidence so that it can be refuted.

If I am still not making sense to you people, than I have no clue where your heads are at, PM me from now on to try to "enlighten" me on theoretical research provisions.

Silly Warrior

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25 Jan 2008 at 21:31 - 284
Because of the evidence found, provided, and Gaile talks, we can only assume this feature is coming very soon/or is in development as we speak.
-Gaile Response
-.Dat Evidence
-Multiple Languages
-Updates that could only have been made a month ago.

All of this points to it. Lets just see what happens.

Balkoth

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25 Jan 2008 at 21:36 - 285
How could you say this is a hoax?
Do you think the people that posted this lied?
Or do you not believe their conclusions?

I doubt this would be entirely fabricated, but the speculation provided by the community is irrelevent to what was found.

Someone found something. They tell you about what they found and they give you what they think it means. I don't doubt infomation people claimed to have found, I doubt the individual conclustions based off such a small portion of the information found.

Hoax? You think this is a lie? like the TerrorShield?
Scepticism does not involve denial.

Antheus

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25 Jan 2008 at 21:40 - 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
I want some sort of evidence. I have been throwing around the word "proof" incorrectly, I well correct for that by being as semantically correct as possible by using "evidence" instead. This all is based about what people have TYPED. I can type anything. I am a piece of cake typing on a keyboard. See?
You're on to us.

It's all a conspiracy.

Quote:
I know quite a bit of computers so I would say it is, but a screen shot of the process, the converted text file, other than copy paste would be exceedingly useful
And if I said that blood runs through my veins, would you ask me to cut open my guts to prove it?

Don't believe anything in this thread. And in the old days, you'll be able to chuckle at all the morons that fell for all the nonsense in here. Won't that be an achievement to be proud of.

And if market never is added - so what? GW isn't that serious a business.

Quote:
A screenshot is not AS maleable, and multiple screenshots from various sources would help me want to "believe".
Yes, the world economy depends on this proof. We need a trilateral party to assemble in Area 51, where a team of 17 international scientists will publish proof in triplicates. It'll then be delived via 10 different trucks and 5 helicopters with armed transport in double-sealed boxes to your place of residence. And world leaders will rejoice knowing you have accepted their offer of proof.

Seriously....

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 21:45 - 287
Quote:
Originally Posted by Balkoth
How could you say this is a hoax?
Do you think the people that posted this lied?
Or do you not believe their conclusions?

I doubt this would be entirely fabricated, but the speculation provided by the community is irrelevent to what was found.

Someone found something. They tell you about what they found and they give you what they think it means. I don't doubt infomation people claimed to have found, I doubt the individual conclustions based off such a small portion of the information found.

Hoax? You think this is a lie? like the TerrorShield?
Scepticism does not involve denial.
Balkoth, I have never accused anyone of lying. Skepticism is not the same as accusations. I have not said anyone has lied. There is a line I will not cross, I was skeptical about the polar bear, but I never thought the originator was lying. If I thought they were lying, I would have to have my own evidence to back up my accusation. I am in the position to be convinced, not in the position to point fingers, except at those who blindly follow a hope that has not been fully fleshed out.

If you read my posts you will notice that trend of my thoughts. I am naturally a skeptical person, I hate the idea of a sheepish fanboy. If you convince me, then I am very silent and look to the best. I have no ill intention versus the .dat surfers, I love the .dat thread to be honest, they find some cool stuff. Text is just harder to provide evidence for since it is so easily manipulated.

I doubt it could be that hard to take a screen pic of the work these surfers are doing. I haven't seen a valid argument as to WHY that shouldn't happen, only arguments that apparently I am a bad person for providing a valid question...

EDIT: Anth: Prove to me the Denver Airport ISNT the headquarters of the NWO! Creepy mural = unilateral proof of evil HQ! Vents from the ground! MUST BE!

Dylananimus

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:06 - 288
Aerian, it's probably best you go look for yourself, or wait for confirmation of the supposed 'marketplace' from offical sources. Failing either of those two happening, I'd suggest the best option for you is to cease reading the thread

I mean, this is all just specualtion on supposed strings or whatever they are. If they're not real...then we've lost nothing. If they are real...we have something good to look forward to.

endlessly asking for proof seems a little pointless when people can only give their evidence via means that could be manipulated. You ask for screenshots, but screenshots can be made to look like whatever a person wants quite easily. I think your only real 'proof' will be the day ANET says "Hey, look at our new market."

And let's all skeptically hope for that day to one day come

Antheus

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:12 - 289
Oh for crying out loud...

Seeing is believing

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:14 - 290
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Originally Posted by Dylananimus
Aerian, it's probably best you go look for yourself, or wait for confirmation of the supposed 'marketplace' from offical sources. Failing either of those two happening, I'd suggest the best option for you is to cease reading the thread

I mean, this is all just specualtion on supposed strings or whatever they are. If they're not real...then we've lost nothing. If they are real...we have something good to look forward to.

endlessly asking for proof seems a little pointless when people can only give their evidence via means that could be manipulated. You ask for screenshots, but screenshots can be made to look like whatever a person wants quite easily. I think your only real 'proof' will be the day ANET says "Hey, look at our new market."

And let's all skeptically hope for that day to one day come
I check this thread for Gaile-comments .

Again, I am skeptical, but to be honest I am optimistically skeptical. And I said a screenshot is not perfect, but it is better than text. Hopefully its not some massively organized hoax, and I would heavily doubt it if there were a few people on here giving SSs.

I am not reiterating my request for evidence either without instigators, I am merely protection my POV from others who seem to rather target my skepticism than my request.

EDIT: Thanks Anth, but clearly you aqcuired that using Men In Black wearing a tin foil hat...

Or did the Reptillians help you with that one

Shawn The Divine

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:15 - 291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Oh for crying out loud...

Seeing is believing
This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:16 - 292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine
This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
Where is Zinger and his expert pixel analysis when you need it? Thanks Anth, that really makes me more excited.

KANE OG

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:22 - 293
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
Where is Zinger and his expert pixel analysis when you need it? Thanks Anth, that really makes me more excited.
He said the Mini Polar Bear pic was shopped.....

/fail

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:24 - 294
*pops popcorn and jumps on the couch* this thread should be fun to watch since these strings may exist, but they are JUST STRINGS. That's it.

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:31 - 295
Quote:
Originally Posted by KANE OG
He said the Mini Polar Bear pic was shopped.....

/fail

KANE
Reading above posts to garner a sense of context for the win!

You = fail

Scarlett Romanov

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:32 - 296
I was watching X-Play (By accident, I swear!) and they had an interview with someone that works with NCSoft. He said something about them implementing some type of auction house into Tabula Rasa. Anyone know anything about their auction system? Whatever it is they may be implementing into into GW as well. May be worth looking into if someone has the horrid game.

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:37 - 297
gaile has been wrong about so much sh!t its pathetic, why do you keep insisting that she knows all?

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:41 - 298
An actually constructive post that has nothing to do with accountability of .dat readers! Warning: Your potential desire to flame me may not relate to your previous conceptions of my arguments!

I was just thinking of a potential flaw with the Marketplace. At least to me it would be frustrating, especially when taking into account the "fully" accessible nature of what it seems to be.

When posting something up for sale, would the buying party see your chars name? Is your name attached to it at all. I could see this easily being abused for PMing people through the use of bots, gold farmers, etc etc.

To me, the fix would be to have anonymous postings. Would having the postings anonymous be a problem?

I don't see a reason why not, since the server doesn't obviously need a PM link or visual confirmation of who you are, but does anyone else see a problem with that?

WinterSnowblind

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:44 - 299
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
An actually constructive post that has nothing to do with accountability of .dat readers! Warning: Your potential desire to flame me may not relate to your previous conceptions of my arguments!

I was just thinking of a potential flaw with the Marketplace. At least to me it would be frustrating, especially when taking into account the "fully" accessible nature of what it seems to be.

When posting something up for sale, would the buying party see your chars name? Is your name attached to it at all. I could see this easily being abused for PMing people through the use of bots, gold farmers, etc etc.

To me, the fix would be to have anonymous postings. Would having the postings anonymous be a problem?

I don't see a reason why not, since doesn't obviously need a PM link or visual confirmation of who you are, but does anyone else see a problem with that?
That's something I had thought about as well actually, I'd prefer if it were a completely anonymous system, or at least with the option to hide your name.

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:51 - 300
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov
I was watching X-Play (By accident, I swear!) and they had an interview with someone that works with NCSoft. He said something about them implementing some type of auction house into Tabula Rasa. Anyone know anything about their auction system? Whatever it is they may be implementing into into GW as well. May be worth looking into if someone has the horrid game.
Last time I looked at Tabula Rasa, the Military Surplus store was more like the WoW auction houses in theory. In practice, since they still haven't implemented bidding (items are buy-out only at the moment) to my knowledge, I suppose it could be very similar to the Xunlai House system for now with one caveat; Tabula Rasa has multiple shards so they can subdivide the server load. That being said, I haven't played TR since beta and they were just floating the idea at the time. It was only implemented post-release. If you want a bullet-point rundown you can look at one of the wikis. (Example: http://tabularasa.wikia.com/wiki/Military_Surplus)

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowBlind
That's something I had thought about as well actually, I'd prefer if it were a completely anonymous system, or at least with the option to hide your name.
I completely agree on this one. From the hypothetical system that has been discussed here, it sounds like all item and gold exchanges will occur without buyer-seller interaction. Without a need for feedback, I see no reason to list a name as long as the entire item description is listed in the Xunlai House (and not some truncated [Party Search style] user-defined title that could be, for example, "Most AWESOMEST item EVAR!!! Buy buy buy!" for a 3g collector item).

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25 Jan 2008 at 22:52 - 301
I am not going to cross my fingers for this although it would be nice.

Antheus

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25 Jan 2008 at 23:06 - 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
*pops popcorn and jumps on the couch* this thread should be fun to watch since these strings may exist, but they are JUST STRINGS. That's it.
Yes, nobody ever claimed anything more (although some jumped to conclusions), except the fact that they exist in multiple languages, which means they were part of production.

As such, they could literally be nothing, part of test, or part of next patch's full implementation. Look at thread title - it's not about what is in game right now.

It might have been a test

Or part of some merchant improvement, such as search

Or who knows what

And there's some related code in the client

But yes, they are just strings. They do not mean marketplace is coming, or that something it was ever implemented, or that it's even part of game. It could be something for GMs.

Aerian_Skybane

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25 Jan 2008 at 23:18 - 303
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Yes, nobody ever claimed anything more (although some jumped to conclusions), except the fact that they exist in multiple languages, which means they were part of production.

As such, they could literally be nothing, part of test, or part of next patch's full implementation. Look at thread title - it's not about what is in game right now.

It might have been a test

Or part of some merchant improvement, such as search

Or who knows what

And there's some related code in the client

But yes, they are just strings. They do not mean marketplace is coming, or that something it was ever implemented, or that it's even part of game. It could be something for GMs.
And you have just become my favorite person . Sounds like its fairly fleshed out. Even if it isn't introduced/realized, it would interesting to hear where they were planning on going and why it failed.

Kendar Muert

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25 Jan 2008 at 23:32 - 304
Now THAT is cool Antheus. Thanks for that.

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25 Jan 2008 at 23:53 - 305
Quote:
Originally Posted by KANE OG
He said the Mini Polar Bear pic was shopped.....

/fail

KANE
Zinger claims EVERYTHING is shopped.

but thing about screenshots is that they usually prove NOTHING. http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7628/gw133qa8.jpg (yes, it is fake. honest.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Oh, so it looks like you could filter perfect and imperfect items and sorft by inscribability. Interesting. Care to export more stings from that location?

fog_of_redoubt

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25 Jan 2008 at 23:58 - 306
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Oh for crying out loud...

Seeing is believing
Actually I just found that block in my DAT file... They may not have the same ID number, but I sorted by size and looked for an "unknown" with the same uncompressed size and found that exact file.

It looks like I have an older gwdatbrowser though as yours shows compressed and uncompressed size, mine just shows uncompressed.

Vazze

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26 Jan 2008 at 00:04 - 307
Blah, if it was a failed experiment, Gaile or someone else would have dropped in to stop further speculations. I am sure Anet has a pretty well thought plan how much programming time they need to invest into GW1 to maintain /delay the erosion of the current player base. Smaller and bigger upgrades are probably scheduled until the marketing value of GW2 news kicks in. Marketplace is obviously on the upgrade list, scheduled for fall/summer/spring who knows.

Martin Alvito

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26 Jan 2008 at 02:00 - 308
1. It's about time.

2. Success/failure will depend on the precise mechanics. Implementing a posting fee to deter people from selling utter junk and remove gold from the game is sensible.

3. Where you'll feel something like this is not in power trading, but in buying commodity items (that don't have traders) and low demand items. This will reduce the transaction costs on selling such items dramatically, resulting in lower prices on commodities without reducing the profit of the farmer (assuming the farmer can play and sell at the same time) and enabling you to buy items with low demand (and thus low prices) where the current system results in market failures.

Don't expect miracles. Do expect that your quality of life will improve, and that it will be much less of a pain to buy items such as unusual weapon mods and rare items with common skins.

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26 Jan 2008 at 02:52 - 309
I would not allow selling items which already have traders in a system like that, unless the reflect the demand in the Market into the traders themselves.

For me, it would mean to actually start selling stuff, since I have no patience to sell in-game, and by outside methods (forums, etc) it's a nusance that require people to be online at the same time to finish the transaction.

Instead of selling to the merchant all those req9 perfect things I walsys get, I would sent the to the market.

-Loki-

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26 Jan 2008 at 03:20 - 310
You guys realise this could just be what they were experimenting with before they realised their short-sighted database design made an auction system not work well in this game, and were too lazy to remove the code, right?

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26 Jan 2008 at 04:16 - 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
You guys realise this could just be what they were experimenting with before they realised their short-sighted database design made an auction system not work well in this game, and were too lazy to remove the code, right?

SHHH! We gotto sound positive so Gaile will be forced to either confirm that its not gonna happen or keep discreetly denying knowledge.

fog_of_redoubt

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26 Jan 2008 at 06:04 - 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
You guys realise this could just be what they were experimenting with before they realised their short-sighted database design made an auction system not work well in this game, and were too lazy to remove the code, right?
Except for the fact that there are text strings indicating that you cant sell a "dedicated" minipet. Since the original excuse of not being able to do it was prior to the HoM this would indicate that this discovery is not from the previous attempt

Also they told us they couldn't do an "Auction House" which would imply bidding, reserves, preventing false bids, and other administratively complex things. They never said they couldn't do a "Trading Post" with simple mechanics, in fact they have always alluded to trade "improvements"

DarkWasp

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26 Jan 2008 at 06:11 - 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
Except for the fact that there are text strings indicating that you cant sell a "dedicated" minipet. Since the original excuse of not being able to do it was prior to the HoM this would indicate that this discovery is not from the previous attempt

Also they told us they couldn't do an "Auction House" which would imply bidding, reserves, preventing false bids, and other administratively complex things. They never said they couldn't do a "Trading Post" with simple mechanics, in fact they have always alluded to trade "improvements"
Good point on the dedicated thing.

-Loki-

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26 Jan 2008 at 06:43 - 314
Quote:
Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
Except for the fact that there are text strings indicating that you cant sell a "dedicated" minipet. Since the original excuse of not being able to do it was prior to the HoM this would indicate that this discovery is not from the previous attempt
Yes, because the dedicated addition was whipped up overnight and given to us as soon as they came up with the idea... Chances are it was in their test while they were working on more important things, while they were also testing the auction system.

Personette

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26 Jan 2008 at 07:08 - 315
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Yes, because the dedicated addition was whipped up overnight and given to us as soon as they came up with the idea... Chances are it was in their test while they were working on more important things, while they were also testing the auction system.
Why don't you work out a timeline on that. See how far you can push back the marketplace while still orienting it around GW:EN developments. Come up with a good reason why they wouldn't have implemented dedicated minipets when the HoM was first introduced, if they were already planning it out.

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26 Jan 2008 at 07:13 - 316
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Yes, because the dedicated addition was whipped up overnight and given to us as soon as they came up with the idea... Chances are it was in their test while they were working on more important things, while they were also testing the auction system.
Of course it wasn't whipped up overnight; it took them about a month. They worked on it after the release of EotN in response to complaints about the customized minipets in HoM. Also, it's not an auction system, so if they were testing this, they weren't testing an auction system or they scrapped that for this.

Hate to say it, but all these things are in this thread over and over if you would just read it. It is true this was all just a test, but then why would they test it if they weren't planning on implementing it? Why would they get to the localization stage, translating the text to different languages, if it was just a test for something they don't think they can actually make live?

EDIT: Something else to consider about the dedicated thing - chances are, different development teams don't communicate with each other while they are working on features. Hell, chances are there is only one development team left working on improvements for GW1. That said, the dedicated thing had to have happened first, then this market testing, or at least the market testing was edited at least once after the dedicated thing for it to be included. Very doubtful they were worked on at the same time for the reasons above.

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26 Jan 2008 at 07:17 - 317
Especially when Anet tests stuff in English only.

-Loki-

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26 Jan 2008 at 08:05 - 318
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Hate to say it, but all these things are in this thread over and over if you would just read it. It is true this was all just a test, but then why would they test it if they weren't planning on implementing it? Why would they get to the localization stage, translating the text to different languages, if it was just a test for something they don't think they can actually make live?
Because features sometimes sound better on paper than they actually work. Why do you think Arenanet don't tell us everything they are working on until it's sure you actually be in the game? I'm sure there's plenty they got to implementation stage with on test servers only to scrap the idea.

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26 Jan 2008 at 08:27 - 319
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Because features sometimes sound better on paper than they actually work. Why do you think Arenanet don't tell us everything they are working on until it's sure you actually be in the game? I'm sure there's plenty they got to implementation stage with on test servers only to scrap the idea.
If the feature doesn't work that well, or they decide it's not worth it to work on the feature any further for whatever reason, why would they get anywhere near the implementation stage? That simply doesn't make sense. They wouldn't be finalizing it and putting on the finishing touches to a feature they didn't test fully and were 100% positive they would be adding it.

Not saying it isn't possible, just saying that scrapping this idea as far as they have gotten with it is highly unlikely, and that there is proof this feature was worked on within the last 3 months. Both of those facts point to a very high probability that they are still working on it, and it is not scrapped.

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26 Jan 2008 at 09:02 - 320
I hope they do it, would help the game immensely. +1 vote for it