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Join Date: May 2007

Aria of the Apocalypse

E/Mo

10 Feb 2008 at 06:40 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kha

It's synching. Pretty sad. I've gone up against people in the 100 ranks. Many go untouched while their friends harrass anyone not part of their little clique. Got KDed 12 times in one race, while no one else got TOUCHED. I also got body blocked numerous times while the main guy is left to speed ahead. Of course there are legit winners who deserve the spot in the top 100, but if you think all of them do then you obviously haven't played the mini-game enough to see just how desperate people are to win.

This has been reported last year numerous times and this year numerous times, but it seems ANet doesn't care since it's just a mini-game with a mini-pet for a reward. Not like this is serious PvP or anything...

Do you know how hard it would be to get 6 people, let alone 2, in a single race together. Then that person has to get lucky and get super and echo, and then that person has to know what the do with teh super and echo as well as the otehr speed boosts

Syncing is useless, and tryign to do it would be a waste of time. The people that try to sync are the ones that don't know how to get a high score

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

10 Feb 2008 at 07:09 - 162

Quote:

Originally Posted by roflcopter ownage

Do you know how hard it would be to get 6 people, let alone 2, in a single race together. ....

E.g. 1 am in the morning in a Korean district. I wouldn´t say that that is hard. Just need to know when most players would normally sleep.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

10 Feb 2008 at 07:14 - 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

E.g. 1 am in the morning in a Korean district. I wouldn´t say that that is hard. Just need to know when most players would normally sleep.

1) You'd need an army of people.
2) You'd spend 5/6 of your time repaying the favor.

By comparison, I get lagged out or otherwise screwed on about half of my runs (if we're talking trying to post 480+) before I have the possibility of achieving the combo. If you get the combo, the other players are irrelevant.

By my math, playing it straight up is three times as efficient. (1/2 success vs. 1/6 success) I'm not saying that it couldn't be done in principle, but that if you're doing it, you're bad at GW. Further, if you see someone with a ton of times in the top 100, they're clearly not syncing.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

10 Feb 2008 at 07:23 - 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kha

I've gone up against people in the 100 ranks. Many go untouched while their friends harrass anyone not part of their little clique.

Go read Robert Axelrod's The Evolution of Cooperation. There's no organized order to this norm of behavior; it simply came about over time without discussion or formal agreement. I don't socialize with the majority of the top 100 players, and I typically only chat with the ones I do socialize with during event weekends. I imagine this is true for most of us; it's not as though this is an organized clique, club or what have you.

However, since we've had so many weekends of rollerbeetle at this point, everyone knows who has repeatedly appeared on the top 100 time and again. It's in no regular top 100 player's best interest to screw over other top 100 players when they get a run; that only leads to tit-for-tat. Plus, there's the karma/superstition factor: if I shut down this run, will the ultimate result be someone else doing the same unto me?

Upshot: you observe people independently converging on a cooperative strategy rather than trying to shaft one another. Doesn't mean that there's a conspiracy or anything organized; it simply means that everyone involved is smart enough to see where their interests lie.

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

R/

10 Feb 2008 at 09:04 - 165

I stopped trying to get to top 100, even if I manage to get atleast #90 I bet I would get taken off my Yuri...

got my best time today 470...

ill just play for some easy token...

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

10 Feb 2008 at 13:53 - 166

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

If it is ALL about "timing", than it is abusing an exploit, seeing how it is documented NOWHERE that you go faster/slower when using certain skills at certain spots...
I know for a FACT...*edit*blah blah blah

my response...
i know for a fact that you are just getting upset over a mini-game that will go POOF in 2 days.

why do people care? if you really wanna get the dumb "prize", which has nothing to do with real life, then spend your life farming money to buy one.

Dwarf Teh Guru

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Desolation Lords [DL]

10 Feb 2008 at 16:42 - 167

Whats the best time to get when reaching the spiral bridge if you're going for a top 100 spot? Looking for some super-leet-roller beetler to answer this question.

pakhavit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Florida

Thai Alliance

R/Mo

10 Feb 2008 at 16:47 - 168

Top 100 gonna be like 10minipet cos 1 player hold 10-20place xD

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

10 Feb 2008 at 18:57 - 169

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

By my math, playing it straight up is three times as efficient. (1/2 success vs. 1/6 success) I'm not saying that it couldn't be done in principle, but that if you're doing it, you're bad at GW. Further, if you see someone with a ton of times in the top 100, they're clearly not syncing.

Way to pull math out of your ass. 90% of all statistics on the internet are made up you know. (including that one)
The point still stands that the way most top 100 scores are achieved is through syncing. I don't care if it "doesn't make sense" to you. Having the chance to get a incrediably valuable minipet that makes you an instant millionare in game is worth the time and co-operation to some people.

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 18:59 - 170

K its sunday .. can some of you pro players please give some of us some more stright foward tips?

you people with 20+ spots on the top 100 are in no danger of anyone of us getting enough spots to knock you off within 24 hours im sure.

dark eliminator

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

[היי]

N/

10 Feb 2008 at 19:11 - 171

ok ok...i got 460,000 high score..and i can tell that they did the following things:

-they are living near the Servers(Low Ping)
-they went to empty district and started to race with Friends who didn't KnockDown them.
-they did it over and over again, until they got twice the 8# skil + the Echo skill(skill 6#)

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

10 Feb 2008 at 19:23 - 172

I just logged into Korean 1 Rollerbeetle Arena, and Gaile Gray was there talking about the high scores. Sorry, I showed up a bit late and it's poorly edited.

Feathermoore Rep

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Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

10 Feb 2008 at 20:57 - 173

It should be quite easy to fix as they are almost guarenteed to be using a database to store this information. If they are recording all scores, and only displaying the top 100, then its just a simple solution of only taking the top 100 UNIQUE entries from the database. If they are writing the scores to the top 100 list, as they are scored, then they indeed are telling truth in that they can not remove them. However, if this is the case, what programmer/design member thought of the idea to make a top 100 list that gives prizes, and allows for multiple entries but not prizes? I'd almost want them to give out multiple prizes, even though it will make them perma-rich, however there will be more prizes in the game, which will go for a semi-lower price.

They still have the opportunity to fix this for future purposes. All they have to do is to check the list to see if the account has posted a top score, then if their score is higher than the one posted. Delete the lower entry from the database, and post the new entry in the database.

Its just a few more extra lines in the code, to check for uniqueness, its not hard, and should have been implemented the first time around. But hey, its there game. Let less than 30 people walk away with prize for the top 100.

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 21:17 - 174

Did anyone happen to get out of her what the prize infact is?

Lain Akazukin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

D/

10 Feb 2008 at 21:18 - 175

No, I asked but she replied that she didn't know yet either.

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

10 Feb 2008 at 21:26 - 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark eliminator

ok ok...i got 460,000 high score..and i can tell that they did the following things:

-they are living near the Servers(Low Ping)
-they went to empty district and started to race with Friends who didn't KnockDown them.
-they did it over and over again, until they got twice the 8# skil + the Echo skill(skill 6#)

so now I gotta move house and sync with people to get a top 100 win? :P /jokegasam

maybe I'll just play it instead. :P

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 21:30 - 177

Yeah honestly, Im a really good connection here and my avrage ping in the races is 150 to 200.

>

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

10 Feb 2008 at 21:32 - 178

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chestnut

Did anyone happen to get out of her what the prize infact is?

I'm assuming since they didn't change the programming at all, it will be more miniature greased lightnings. That's the average case scenario.

WORST CASE scenario: We get more crates of fireworks.

BEST CASE scenario: We get miniature lisa's.

2nd BEST CASE scenario: We get everlasting beetle juice tonics.

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 21:34 - 179

Whats a mini lisa?

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

10 Feb 2008 at 21:37 - 180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chestnut

Whats a mini lisa?

It's Lisa the world famous racing beetle! (she's in the outpost just like "zippy" greased lightning).

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

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Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 21:39 - 181

When I've seen Gailes posts lately I always get the impression she's been left hanging by tech/management.

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 21:51 - 182

Isnt that.. allways the case with Gaile?

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 22:01 - 183

what I dont get, is even when I have a great start, and I am far ahead, .. and I got an echo and srb.. and im timing eveything perfect... and I get KD'ed and lost it all.

my question is, how do the top racers have so MANY perfect scores.. not only do they have to get 1 echo + srb.. they have to not get KD'ed

honestly, Im starting to wonder if boxes are based on account and is mine unlucky

I mean.. I can see getting one .. or MAYBE two 480 spots.. but like 4? and like over 20 high 470's?

Dogmire

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

GW

We Farm Your (Ectos)

W/

10 Feb 2008 at 22:41 - 184

I agree that there is something being exploited and I am sure it’s a sync team. My biggest complaint is the lag I can get in a few good races then they start to kick me back to town with a dishonor hex for leaching. It happens over and over I can’t stand to play anymore!

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

10 Feb 2008 at 22:48 - 185

Quote:

Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿

You're an idiot. Go get 5 other people and try to sync even 1 time and see what happens..

How about the whole guild? Why limit yourself to 5 people?

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

10 Feb 2008 at 22:51 - 186

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

I'm assuming since they didn't change the programming at all, it will be more miniature greased lightnings. That's the average case scenario.

WORST CASE scenario: We get more crates of fireworks.

BEST CASE scenario: We get miniature lisa's.

2nd BEST CASE scenario: We get everlasting beetle juice tonics.

Best case: all of those filthy cheaters get a permaban.

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

10 Feb 2008 at 22:54 - 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakkara

Best case: all of those filthy cheaters get a permaban.

Too bad it isn't cheating? Gaile pretty much confirmed it too.

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

10 Feb 2008 at 22:56 - 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

Too bad it isn't cheating? Gaile pretty much confirmed it too.

It's as much cheating as the dragons nest exploit that's going on.

Anet always rewards cheaters, dupers, hackers, powertraders and scammers while honest players get the shaft time and again, and we have to work our arse off all day to be able to afford anything of value, while you-know-who just dupes a few more armbraces and can buy all the pets and titles he wants.

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

10 Feb 2008 at 22:58 - 189

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakkara

It's as much cheating as the dragons nest exploit that's going on.

Anet always rewards cheaters, dupers, hackers, powertraders and scammers while honest players get the shaft time and again, and we have to work our arse off all day to be able to afford anything of value, while you-know-who just dupes a few more armbraces and can buy all the pets and titles he wants.

/sigh.... here i'll post it for the umpteenth time.

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

10 Feb 2008 at 22:59 - 190

Just because Gaile doesn't know HOW they cheat doesn't mean they DONT cheat.

They do.

Lain Akazukin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

D/

10 Feb 2008 at 23:42 - 191

We don't cheat. Don't QQ because you don't know how to race well and use your luck.

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

10 Feb 2008 at 23:43 - 192

They dont cheat, I used to think they did, then I figured out the secrets to the race and how to do faster times. I used to accuse them of cheating.. not anymore.. its totaly ligit.

It takes practice.

gl everyone
(not on top 100 yet) but soon I shall be! I hope.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

11 Feb 2008 at 00:10 - 193

All I have to say is who cares. Seriously, in the end, it's ANet fault for being, and yes, I'm saying this... too busy with GW2.

spookycloud

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

D/

11 Feb 2008 at 00:48 - 194

For all the people who say they don't cheat,well they are cheating what the top 100 players are doing is they are creating multiple accounts and then they will race on every account and get in the top 100 and get there mini beetle.If you ask me I'am angry because these idiots are going to have like 20-30 of these minipets.I think anet needs to do a ban on these cheaters get their ip adress and only let 1 account win on the top 100 list.This is just the dumbest thing anyone has done and to cheat you are even dumber to do that.

Mad Pig

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Team Chaos Theory

11 Feb 2008 at 00:50 - 195

I played against Yuri and i didnt noticed anything strange.

Sent

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/E

11 Feb 2008 at 00:52 - 196

Why would they create multiple accounts for a minipet?

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

11 Feb 2008 at 00:53 - 197

Quote:

Originally Posted by spookycloud

For all the people who say they don't cheat,well they are cheating what the top 100 players are doing is they are creating multiple accounts and then they will race on every account and get in the top 100 and get there mini beetle.If you ask me I'am angry because these idiots are going to have like 20-30 of these minipets.I think anet needs to do a ban on these cheaters get their ip adress and only let 1 account win on the top 100 list.This is just the dumbest thing anyone has done and to cheat you are even dumber to do that.

How come I see "Yuris Sayuri" about 50 times. Couldn't he of just used multiple accounts then?

Or... maybe all those other accounts are his too!! OMG secret conspiracy he is taking all the minipets!

Madbull2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

11 Feb 2008 at 01:02 - 198

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

How come I see "Yuris Sayuri" about 50 times. Couldn't he of just used multiple accounts then?

Or... maybe all those other accounts are his too!! OMG secret conspiracy he is taking all the minipets!

Maybe not, but that doesn't mean he (along with a ton of other people) aren't taking up slots that other players deserve to have. The facts are, this system is absurd. Obviously Yuri is the best beetleracer, he has the #1 time, that's established. But the fact that he can also have the #3, #5, #16, #42, #whatever time is crazy! The rewards NPC says the top 100 RACERS will receive an award. Therefore, 100 prizes SHOULD be given out! If this is not the case, I certainly will be voicing my opinion to Anet and I advise everyone else who may be screwed by this to do the same.

Chik N Nuggets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

calgary, alberta, canada

The Crimson Knighthood [CRIM]

W/

11 Feb 2008 at 01:09 - 199

they are better then you. and they know what powerups come in what boxes.

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

11 Feb 2008 at 01:12 - 200

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chik N Nuggets

they are better then you. and they know what powerups come in what boxes.

Yea Gaile Gray wrote a texmod thing for it where you can see what the powerups are. /endsarcasm