Red Resigns: What will Anet do about this?

Symeon

Symeon

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Guild Wars down.

kupp

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The Shiverpeaks

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Yup pretty much.

Reflect

Reflect

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Varna,Bulgaria

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so thats what anet did to stop IT, sscrewed the servers, so noone can play??
Damn i wanna play RA and cant :@

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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Originally Posted by willo the dark View Post
Are you guys just winning two matches or are you going for the bonus for 6 wins?
Just two. The reward diminishes too much to make winning 6 games worth that time. The real reward is the faction / gold which does not increase by fulfilling additional objectives. Zcoins are really only icing on the cake, no one really cares about them.

english storm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

I played HB like normal and didn't resign, had a few fun matches but most just rage quit on me Howver the game is so laggy now and keeps giving er15 that i will start to resign if i land on red as it's the only way to get a game now!

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

it is funny that this isn't the 1st time servers fail cuz of RR day but it seems anet doesn't really give a waffle...
remove z combat anet? maybe? no? ok...

Premium Unleaded

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Happy Code=15 day!
Can't even AB because of HB...

Red Apple

Red Apple

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

[DuDe]

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Happy Code=15 day!

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

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Ah great, free commander points, gold and z-keys!

What could go wrong?

/error 15

MrTev

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2009

Cancel, rejoin.

Works for me.

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

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It's working now anyway.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

everyone who RR's should be banned

flameofaiur

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2009

Hungarian Seniors [HUNs]

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
everyone who RR's should be banned
Obvious troll is obvious

*edit: Anyway, I only noticed one case of "code=15". International districts anyone?

shadows of hob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

Mo/Me

Yep, plz just ban all the players that resigned 5 times or more in an hour in HB and we are fine.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadows of hob View Post
Yep, plz just ban all the players that resigned 5 times or more in an hour in HB and we are fine.
just the few thousand of them?

Mr. Undisclosed

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I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Originally Posted by chrisworld View Post
so tell me what happens if i go do some hb **innocently** with a good team of heroes, and i happen to **innocently** have the zq, and i just happen to enter battle and just happen to not resign if i am red and **innocently** play like the good player should during the rr day? The blue side will get pissed off and leave..correct? Because i'm willing to bet the blue side will 99% of the time shout obscenities and leave..but what else will they do? Taking into account the idiots who do stuff in this game i'm willin to bet they threw a crappy team together and wouldn't survive even if they came after me for not resigning, and i have the well built team. Now..if i am on blue? The red guy will resign 99% of the time, the chance of me joining in with someone just like me will be low but it would still suck. In the end i win even more than a zq because i'm not looked at as exploiting and manipulating a match. Hmm...

Tell me what you think of my master evil plan.


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Originally Posted by shadows of hob View Post
Yep, plz just ban all the players that resigned 5 times or more in an hour in HB and we are fine.
Oh yes, please do. Then all the claims of GW being a dead game will be true lol.

Evil Eye

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

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Originally Posted by shadows of hob View Post
Yep, plz just ban all the players that resigned 5 times or more in an hour in HB and we are fine.
or remove HB, like they said they would

sixacsix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

HERO

Why not ban them?

If you think about it, this RR stuff has a much greater impact on the economy than things like the Mallyx exploit ever had. Back then if you were really fast and decked with consumables you would look at 5 hours for 1 armbrace without taking any breaks and with no wipes.

It shouldn't matter how many they are, they already paid for the game and are just eating bandwidth and server time now.

Consider it again:

Mallyx exploit: You had to actually put effort into it. There was no magic trick to finish the mission and get the rewards. You still had to beat all the trash before Mallyx and then not wipe on him. There was no ursan/perma SF ezmode. It actually took the most skill anything in PvE is ever going to take. On top of that you had to have an organized group. And then it takes minimum 5 hours to get just 1 armbrace. Nowadays you can get armbraces faster through normal play. And those people back then all got banned because they liked the game a little too much.

RR: You don't even play, you just wait or quit the game. 0 effort, max reward. Just the time to enter the match and zone back to GtoB. Then you get: 1k gold + 6k balth (=1 zkers + 1k balth) + zcoins. You don't need a group. You don't need consums. You don't need to have completed any campaign.

kupp

kupp

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sixacsix View Post
Why not ban them?

If you think about it, this RR stuff has a much greater impact on the economy than things like the Mallyx exploit ever had. Back then if you were really fast and decked with consumables you would look at 5 hours for 1 armbrace without taking any breaks and with no wipes.

It shouldn't matter how many they are, they already paid for the game and are just eating bandwidth and server time now.

Consider it again:

Mallyx exploit: You had to actually put effort into it. There was no magic trick to finish the mission and get the rewards. You still had to beat all the trash before Mallyx and then not wipe on him. There was no ursan/perma SF ezmode. It actually took the most skill anything in PvE is ever going to take. On top of that you had to have an organized group. And then it takes minimum 5 hours to get just 1 armbrace. Nowadays you can get armbraces faster through normal play. And those people back then all got banned because they liked the game a little too much.

RR: You don't even play, you just wait or quit the game. 0 effort, max reward. Just the time to enter the match and zone back to GtoB. Then you get: 1k gold + 6k balth (=1 zkers + 1k balth) + zcoins. You don't need a group. You don't need consums. You don't need to have completed any campaign.
Once more, you can't ban these many people. Even in a F2P game killing thounsands of active players goes against their interest and nobody should have to explain why.

There are 25 districts in HB right now and it's far from it's peak. 2500 people just sitting in the district, then add all the people in GToB, all the people in a match, and everyone mapping between places. Also take into account the fact that it's not the same 2500 people doing it for the 24h, they come and do so there's a lot more players than those you can just put together by simple math.

On top of all of that, add everyone who also did RR on the earlier days (65 districts at one time). What do you get in the end... 15k people perhaps, maybe more maybe less? How many active players are again in all of GW?

Banning these many people isn't exactly wise. Wich IMO will also have some backlash in GW2 sales. Sucks, but this is Anet's fault for allowing it >,<

edit: I just counted the American districts, 8 more for the International and 10 more for Europe - English, that's all I bothered to check.

BlackSephir

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed View Post
Oh yes, please do. Then all the claims of GW being a dead game will be true lol.
No one will miss exploiters. There's not much difference between a dead game that has thousands of exploiters in it and a dead game without exploiters.

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Banning these many people isn't exactly wise.
Yeah, if only GW didn't have a monthly fee.

Lyger

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Cambridge, UK

Metal Headz

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RR day has killed PvP.

Hooray code 15.

shadows of hob

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

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Everybody is down again.

And yes, just ban them, the people that abuse HB are not the most briliant players out there.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

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For all the players saying RR'ers should be banned, that's something that can't be done as there's so many players doing it.

What Anet COULD have done is remove the quest, simple as that. Leaving it as it is means they:

1. Don't care about the money that can be made out of it.

or

2. Too lazy to remove it.

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
No one will miss exploiters. There's not much difference between a dead game that has thousands of exploiters in it and a dead game without exploiters.


Yeah, if only GW didn't have a monthly fee.
yeah but gw2 has to sell you know...

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

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Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

And people won't buy it if AN bans them because they're knowingly exploiting the game?
Well, I bid them farewell. It's not like GW2 won't sell enough and it needs that kind of players.

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Join Date: May 2008

if anet cared about RR day they would remove the quest and not ban thousands of people
but they don't... so
i think gw2 will be mostly exploiters like this because most people that like to play fair already saw how concerned anet is about the community,got disappointed and left the game...(e.g taking years to fix SF,months to fix RR day etc.)

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Also keep in mind it is impossible to CHECK for this. For example, I have been doing RR for a few hours... BUT not resigning as I end up on red. I've been actually playing the game. Got something like a 17-3 win record today.

But those 3 matches I lost.... I did end up resigning in those. Not because I was red, but because I was several points behind and wasn't going to win.

It isn't that so many people are doing it. It is also so difficult to actually confirm.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

So you'll get banned along with them, sacrifices always have to be made.
We'll remember you.

Munkypoo7

Munkypoo7

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Join Date: May 2009

Miami, Florida, United States

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
So you'll get banned along with them, sacrifices always have to be made.
We'll remember you.
Youre one hella funny kid.

Edit:
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
And it's unfair that I can't get to my next suxon rank in AB because retards broke GW.
Wow poor baby, grow up.

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Join Date: May 2008

it would be unfair if he DID get banned for playing fair...
that would mean anet bans for playing HB not just for doing RR

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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And it's unfair that I can't get to my next suxon rank in AB because retards broke GW.

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

ANet would have to ban tens of thousands people.

1. How they will know who abused system?
2.Why they would do it?

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Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

sad story bro

sixacsix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

HERO

Nothing speaks against suspending all those who did it for a long enough period and removing all of their Zaishen Keys (1 month suspension, should be enough to make them think twice next time).

And not having something only makes you want it more, I could see how it could even improve GW2 sales.



As for it being hard to detect? Run a simple script that will flag accounts of those who resigned within x sec of the beginning of the match while being on the red team, not much harder than the script they ran when they detected the 117 farming Mallyx.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sixacsix View Post
And not having something only makes you want it more, I could see how it could even improve GW2 sales.
i don't see how...care to explain?

sixacsix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

HERO

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Originally Posted by Pelorin Eshmar View Post
i don't see how...care to explain?
If all those people who were RRing get banned for like a month, they'll be in GW-denial and get uber hyped on GW2 after they realize how crap other MMOs (WoW.. or F2P ones) are for PvP.

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Join Date: May 2008

or they will be really pissed for getting banned for something that tens of thousands people have been doing and will ragequit gw and won't buy gw2?

own age myname

own age myname

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sixacsix View Post
If all those people who were RRing get banned for like a month, they'll be in GW-denial and get uber hyped on GW2 after they realize how crap other MMOs (WoW.. or F2P ones) are for PvP.
Actually, no, I would play other games.

sixacsix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

HERO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelorin Eshmar View Post
or they will be really pissed for getting banned for something that tens of thousands people have been doing and will ragequit gw and won't buy gw2?
Quote:
Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
Actually, no, I would play other games.
No.

That's what you say now because you are able to play GW whenever you want and you didn't get to experience WoW PvP or F2P games PvP.
Trust me, I'm speaking out of experience.

They'll come back one day, they always do.

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Join Date: May 2008

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