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13 May 2010 at 15:45 - 441

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

@ Scepteric:

This shows there is some clear shortcommings in the common sense of these botters. Image you buying a game, and then instead of playing it, have a bot play it for you. You're not reaping the rewards of that bot afterwards, you're not building up a positive reptation (which is important in PvP) and you're simply not gaining any benefit. (Many botters bot even after they have reached the HoM req for titles)
These botters are next-to retarded, in both sences of the word. They don't understand that botting, in a dead game, is of no use. On top of that, GW really isn't that hard anymore. The fact that they have to bot in such a low-competitve environment means they are terrible than terrible players.

lol first time I agree with you

snaek

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13 May 2010 at 16:28 - 442

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Originally Posted by killed u man

building up a positive reptation (which is important in PvP)

gw is flawed in this sense because the average person uses rank as an indicator. the average person will overlook a high rank gained through running shitway and/or bots, simply because its a high rank.

i'll have to disagree somewhat. the reward of botting in pve is money/loot/titles/etc yes, but there is also a reward of botting in pvp which is also titles/zkeys/money.

also in pvp, im pretty sure a lot of people bot just for the fun of it. similar to people who grief in pvp just for the fun of it.

Danny Used Frenzy

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13 May 2010 at 16:33 - 443

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

You think there are only 8-9 bots? Seriously?

Wow, people really don't know what's happening, huh?

Let me try to lay them out for you (only the publicly accessible ones) -

Mesmer Interrupt Bot
Ranger Interrupt Bot
T-Spike (syncs spikes)
PvP Enemy Party Window (Tells you the professions, skills, enchants, hexes, etc. of the enemy party and one-click targets).
JQ Bot
Boreal Chestbot (runs chests with lockpicks, identifies and sells items, etc.)
Hero Speedbooking bot (speed books EoTN for title rep points)
Vanquish bot (soon-to-be released bot that vq's for you with your heroes)
W/N Raptorbot (farms, identifies items, sells items, etc.)
Title Package bot (switches your title and between NM and HM based on your area)
Jitte Farming bot
Bot Toolbox (does....a lot).
Follow Bot (for use with 2 accounts running. Follow bot will follow the main account to help with vanquishes or dungeons)
Stygian Veil Trapper (trap farms veil in HM, IDs weapons, sells everything except r9 weapons, gems, lockpicks, dyes, and it's own ID kits)
HA Infuse Bot (replaces Infuse monks in HA)
Destroyer Core farming bot
RA Mo/W Bot
LDoA Deathleveling bot (deathlevels for your LDoA title)
All-Around Bot (uses alcohol, party items, and sweets)
Mount Qinkai Vanquish Bot (farms faction)
Elite Monk Tome farming bot
Elite Rit Tome farming bot
Discordway Vanquish Bot
Dragon's Nest Bot (farms gamer points)
Dragon Arena Bot
Rollerbeetle Racing Bot (uses skills and racing pattern to win/place in Rollerbeetle)
9 Rings Bot (farming Lucky/Unlucky points, buys new tickets when you need them, keeps the client active while afk'ing to prevent the game from shutting down)
CoF chestbot (runs chests for lockpicks)
Kilroy Running Survivor Bot (farms Legendary Survivor title)
R/Me FoWbot (almost done. Farms FoW solo)
Feather Farming Bot
Polar Bear Farming Bot
Deldrimor Title Farming Bot
Norn Title Farming Bot
Asuran leeching bot (commonly used with A/E or W/N farming bots to allow your main account to leech your bot account)

And that's not all. There are many other bots listed in this thread that are also publicly released, and many more on the way. That is just a small sample of about half of the publicly released bots currently being used.

By current download and traffic estimates, at least 5,000 players currently bot. It is also highly likely that they bot on more than one account and even more likely that they bot on more than 2 accounts. And that is only an estimate of publicly released bots. Private bot usage could drastically change the number.

For the last time, this is a serious issue.

That's well less than half the number of bots currently in existence.

Septeric

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13 May 2010 at 16:34 - 444

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man View Post
@ Scepteric:

This shows there is some clear shortcommings in the common sense of these botters. Image you buying a game, and then instead of playing it, have a bot play it for you. You're not reaping the rewards of that bot afterwards, you're not building up a positive reptation (which is important in PvP) and you're simply not gaining any benefit. (Many botters bot even after they have reached the HoM req for titles)
These botters are next-to retarded, in both sences of the word. They don't understand that botting, in a dead game, is of no use. On top of that, GW really isn't that hard anymore. The fact that they have to bot in such a low-competitve environment means they are terrible than terrible players.

meh..
1st i said it was my opinion..

2nd i really don't play PvP for the 100th time in this thread.. so my point of view does not encompass those angles.

3rd.. i have not /signed or /notsigned this thread because i am not sure how i feel about bots. EULA is a joke.. it is my money and i will risk it as i see fit.. period.

debating 'because' vs 'because' goes nowhere.

but i am hell bent on trying to get a response from them.

edit: if it sounds hostile.. i did not mean it that way.. workin through my 1st cup of coffee

Eragon Zarroc

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13 May 2010 at 16:55 - 445

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

This shows there is some clear shortcommings in the common sense of these botters. Image you buying a game, and then instead of playing it, have a bot play it for you. You're not reaping the rewards of that bot afterwards, you're not building up a positive reptation (which is important in PvP) and you're simply not gaining any benefit. (Many botters bot even after they have reached the HoM req for titles)
These botters are next-to retarded, in both sences of the word. They don't understand that botting, in a dead game, is of no use. On top of that, GW really isn't that hard anymore. The fact that they have to bot in such a low-competitve environment means they are terrible than terrible players.

Perhaps the botters purpose isn't to enjoy the game? Perhaps the botters purpose isn't to try and achieve the fake in-game fame that so many players desperately crave to have? Have you ever thought of that? Not everyone covets their reputation in the same way you do...

Did you ever think that some botters, especially the ones attempting to make complex pvp bots, just do it as a challenge? Perhaps the challenge for them is not to win using manual skill, but to devise such ingenious code that it could beat even the best players that play manually?

Could you devise a program that can play better than most normal people can? Of course not, so you have to resort to making yourself play better than most people and you enjoy that challenge. Well botters enjoy the challenge of making people like you rage by beating you with bots.

Do you think that they care whether or not they are terrible players? Lol, of course they don't. What they care about is their ability to write programs that can out-manuever even the best players.

MisterB

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13 May 2010 at 17:08 - 446

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

Perhaps the botters purpose isn't to enjoy the game? Perhaps the botters purpose isn't to try and achieve the fake in-game fame that so many players desperately crave to have? Have you ever thought of that? Not everyone covets their reputation in the same way you do...

Did you ever think that some botters, especially the ones attempting to make complex pvp bots, just do it as a challenge? Perhaps the challenge for them is not to win using manual skill, but to devise such ingenious code that it could beat even the best players that play manually?

Could you devise a program that can play better than most normal people can? Of course not, so you have to resort to making yourself play better than most people and you enjoy that challenge. Well botters enjoy the challenge of making people like you rage by beating you with bots.

Do you think that they care whether or not they are terrible players? Lol, of course they don't. What they care about is their ability to write programs that can out-manuever even the best players.

That may be true, and I agree that devising these scripts just for their own sake may be appealing for those who create them. But I believe he is referring to the users who merely download and run them. And it is also unfair and unsportsmanlike to bring bots to a player versus player format. Any rage on the part of a human playing against someone using a bot to supplement their play is well deserved, in my opinion.

Sarevok Thordin

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13 May 2010 at 17:16 - 447

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Originally Posted by MisterB

That may be true, and I agree that devising these scripts just for their own sake may be appealing for those who create them. But I believe he is referring to the users who merely download and run them. And it is also unfair and unsportsmanlike to bring bots to a player versus player format. Any rage on the part of a human playing against someone using a bot to supplement their play is well deserved, in my opinion.

More importantly, it's against the ToS and it screws up the experience for the rest of us.

There is no justification for botting that cannot end in a ban.

Eragon Zarroc

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13 May 2010 at 17:41 - 448

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Originally Posted by MisterB

I believe he is referring to the users who merely download and run them.

mmmm, very true.

majoho

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13 May 2010 at 17:49 - 449

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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

More importantly, it's against the ToS and it screws up the experience for the rest of us.

There is no justification for botting that cannot end in a ban.

Indeed.

I wouldn't mind if Ncsoft/Arenanet introduced some kind of safety measure that could detect some of the more simple bots.

Nerel

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13 May 2010 at 19:27 - 450

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Originally Posted by majoho

Indeed.

I wouldn't mind if Ncsoft/Arenanet introduced some kind of safety measure that could detect some of the more simple bots.

Woah, woah, woah... hold your horses... this thread is just asking for a RESPONSE from ArenaNet on the issue of botting, actually expecting them to implement some measures to deal with the problem is way beyond any reasonable expectation at this point.

Sankt Hallvard

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13 May 2010 at 20:45 - 451

I guess just removing the incentives for botting(faction, titles) would be too much of a stretch. Call it temporary while waiting for a fix, like the XTH issue.

majoho

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13 May 2010 at 21:33 - 452

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Originally Posted by Nerel

Woah, woah, woah... hold your horses... this thread is just asking for a RESPONSE from ArenaNet on the issue of botting, actually expecting them to implement some measures to deal with the problem is way beyond any reasonable expectation at this point.

Hehe, yeah I realize that would be a little late to do that - but I wasn't aware that there were so many readily available bots around, mentioning them in this thread could possibly make more people try botting.

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13 May 2010 at 23:24 - 453

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Originally Posted by MisterB

And it is also unfair and unsportsmanlike to bring bots to a player versus player format. Any rage on the part of a human playing against someone using a bot to supplement their play is well deserved, in my opinion.

I suppose we all may as well all just put on our /rage faces right now. I don't see this problem going away any time soon. aNet aren't about to self-egg their faces by responding to this with the truth, you know, something along the lines of:

"We're really sorry, but the client is made from leftover Spectrum code, and was never intended to run an MMO, it's actually an online poker cheat-bot one of our buddies made while playing internet hearts one day..There's simply nothing we can do about the bots."

I'm pretty sure that it'd leave em liable in some way or other, and that legal has advised them not to touch it with a barge-pole, unless they absolutely have to, sorta like the NC login [email protected] issue..

DreamWind

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14 May 2010 at 11:39 - 454

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Considering how long this thread is now, I'm tempted to suggest that Anet will not respond to this thread.

In general....I just don't think they care anymore. Look at how often Anet employees respond on GW2Guru threads with half the number of views this thread has had. They simply no longer care about GW1. They've moved on.

I'm not gonna lie...that is pretty pathetic. Honestly I think the only reason I should come back to GW now is to mess with some bot abuse. It sounds kind of fun and the creators won't do anything to me.

fowlero

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14 May 2010 at 15:15 - 455

On a positive note Cute Amd, one of the most well known botting monks has had his account permabanned. Least it shows there's some token gesture going on i guess.

As previous have said though, Anet really need to talk to community more about this as it is really tarnishing my thoughts of purchasing GW2. You can use the "we're working on gw2" line as many times as you like, but if shit like this continues to happen to this game, i know i won't buy the sequel.

Sarevok Thordin

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14 May 2010 at 15:21 - 456

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Originally Posted by fowlero

On a positive note Cute Amd, one of the most well known botting monks has had his account permabanned. Least it shows there's some token gesture going on i guess.

As previous have said though, Anet really need to talk to community more about this as it is really tarnishing my thoughts of purchasing GW2. You can use the "we're working on gw2" line as many times as you like, but if shit like this continues to happen to this game, i know i won't buy the sequel.

Now if Anet would only use the news sheet on the login screen to communicate that people are being perma banned for it.

majoho

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14 May 2010 at 16:58 - 457

There is no need to tip people off

Scarlett Romanov

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14 May 2010 at 18:07 - 458

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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Now if Anet would only use the news sheet on the login screen to communicate that people are being perma banned for it.

...Because that's so detered botters in the past. /sarcasm.

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14 May 2010 at 18:23 - 459

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

I guess just removing the incentives for botting(faction, titles) would be too much of a stretch. Call it temporary while waiting for a fix, like the XTH issue.

Removing those "incentives" wouldn't even stop botting, mainly in PvP. A lot of the players in PvP nowadays simply can not win without bots. For some unknown reason, they get this feeling that they are accomplishing something by winning, even though the bot is doing all the work. As long as there are winners and losers, there will be bots, even if there is no reward for winning over losing. It is the exact same thing as kids cheating to get rank 10 prestige in CoD MW2, people bridging and modding their xbox back in halo 2, and just taking advantage of glitching and other crap in pretty much every single competitive game out there.

For whatever reason these people just feel as accomplished winning through cheating as they do winning legit. I will never understand why because it proves absolutely nothing and doesn't mean anything at all, and actually tarnishes the reputation of all achievements, but some people are just retarded.

QueenofDeath

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14 May 2010 at 19:09 - 460

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Originally Posted by Still Number One

Removing those "incentives" wouldn't even stop botting, mainly in PvP. A lot of the players in PvP nowadays simply can not win without bots. For some unknown reason, they get this feeling that they are accomplishing something by winning, even though the bot is doing all the work. As long as there are winners and losers, there will be bots, even if there is no reward for winning over losing. It is the exact same thing as kids cheating to get rank 10 prestige in CoD MW2, people bridging and modding their xbox back in halo 2, and just taking advantage of glitching and other crap in pretty much every single competitive game out there.

For whatever reason these people just feel as accomplished winning through cheating as they do winning legit. I will never understand why because it proves absolutely nothing and doesn't mean anything at all, and actually tarnishes the reputation of all achievements, but some people are just retarded.

They aren't really doing it for the winning they are doing it because it pisses YOU and many more like YOU off! Greifing is fun to some people. Coming to the forums and seeing you whine and cry and QQ about it just makes them want to do it even more. So you're missing the whole point thinking they are doing it solely for the winning. It's the lovely red face they get to make on you and reading about the steam boiling out your ears. That's what is fun to them. You should read the book The Celestine Prophecy and then you might understand.

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Sankt Hallvard

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14 May 2010 at 19:53 - 461

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Originally Posted by Still Number One

For whatever reason these people just feel as accomplished winning through cheating as they do winning legit. I will never understand why because it proves absolutely nothing and doesn't mean anything at all, and actually tarnishes the reputation of all achievements, but some people are just retarded.

I just think you are wrong. Even when there were totally imbalanced builds most people preferred to run "honorable" instead. For instance bloodspike in gvg or shovespike in TA. Both of those (at least I think) got most of their popularity because they yielded good amounts of glad/champ pts not because people thought it was fun to win in itself. Sure some people probably get their kick out of winning regardless of the means but I think this number would be substantially lower than the number of people running gimmicks(or bots) to get the ridiculous in-game rewards(titles).

However, at this point it may already be too late. As you said now to stay in the top you are pretty much required to bring bots.

The guy pointing out the grief factor probably has a point too. But keep in mind bots were initially made and gained popularity for their ability to grind titles.

Martin Alvito

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14 May 2010 at 20:50 - 462

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Originally Posted by Still Number One

For whatever reason these people just feel as accomplished winning through cheating as they do winning legit.

Not quite. If you can't win legit, then winning by cheating is better than losing for some people. I don't understand it either. I'd rather lose, learn and get better.

There is some truth to the "I bot for the lulz" argument. However, the players that have done so that I have spoken with got bored with it quickly. The persistent botters are probably similar to the people that ran gimmick: results-oriented and unconcerned with reputation.

PvP bots exist because disruption is OP in this game, and will persist until disruption is brought back into line. That would be a pretty substantial shift, and I don't see it happening.

Sarevok Thordin

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14 May 2010 at 20:59 - 463

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Not quite. If you can't win legit, then winning by cheating is better than losing for some people. I don't understand it either. I'd rather lose, learn and get better.

There is some truth to the "I bot for the lulz" argument. However, the players that have done so that I have spoken with got bored with it quickly. The persistent botters are probably similar to the people that ran gimmick: results-oriented and unconcerned with reputation.

PvP bots exist because disruption is OP in this game, and will persist until disruption is brought back into line. That would be a pretty substantial shift, and I don't see it happening.

I'd actually lol HARD if all interrupts got a minimum 20 second recharge.

vandevere

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14 May 2010 at 21:01 - 464

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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

I'd actually lol HARD if all interrupts got a minimum 20 second recharge.

Problem is that that would nerf Mesmers and Rangers right into the basement...

Sarevok Thordin

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14 May 2010 at 21:55 - 465

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Originally Posted by vandevere

Problem is that that would nerf Mesmers and Rangers right into the basement...

Yeah but it would kill botters at least, what are they gonna do, bot empathy and backfire all day?

Fay Vert

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14 May 2010 at 21:57 - 466

May as well just remove mesmers and rangers from the game, and any other profession that ever gets a bot. Good solution.

vandevere

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14 May 2010 at 22:01 - 467

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

May as well just remove mesmers and rangers from the game, and any other profession that ever gets a bot. Good solution.

I was just about to say something along those lines. Thank you.

There is such a thing as going too far.

I know bots are bad, and I would like them gone too.

But you can't punish possibly thousands of legit players who run Mesmers and rangers just to get the bots. That would be a game-killer...

fowlero

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14 May 2010 at 23:29 - 468

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

May as well just remove mesmers and rangers from the game, and any other profession that ever gets a bot. Good solution.

You'd have to remove monks too then.

And warriors possibly, i'm not sure.

FoxBat

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14 May 2010 at 23:49 - 469

As far as player-enhancing smart macro style bots, they should probably just embrace it in GW2 like WoW did, no use fighting it.

snaek

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15 May 2010 at 01:21 - 470

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Originally Posted by fowlero

You'd have to remove monks too then.

And warriors possibly, i'm not sure.

gw would be awesome if the only classes in it were paragons, dervishes, assassins, and ritualists.

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15 May 2010 at 01:26 - 471

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath

They aren't really doing it for the winning they are doing it because it pisses YOU and many more like YOU off! Greifing is fun to some people. Coming to the forums and seeing you whine and cry and QQ about it just makes them want to do it even more. So you're missing the whole point thinking they are doing it solely for the winning. It's the lovely red face they get to make on you and reading about the steam boiling out your ears. That's what is fun to them. You should read the book The Celestine Prophecy and then you might understand.

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I don't play Guild Wars anymore and haven't in 2 years so I'm not one of the people getting upset over it. I was simply making the statement that even getting rid of all rewards in the game (balth faction, z keys, titles, cape trims, whatever) would not stop botting. Martin put it in better words than I did by basically saying they would rather win despite cheating than lose and try to get better naturally.

As far as griefers go, I ignore them. They are usually small in numbers and if you ignore them they go away because they don't get the response they want. The majority of botters are not griefers, and they aren't people who enjoy coding these scripts to rival the best players (most users don't know a single thing about how to go about coding the things). The majority of them are using them to obtain something they don't have either because they are not good enough to obtain it on their own or they don't have the desire to do it themselves when a bot can do it for them.

I still stand beside what I said about some of them feeling just as accomplished winning through cheating as they would getting it normally. People are proud of their fake titles and achievements they have garnered even if they did not rightfully earn them. Just look at Cod MW2 and all the people paying real money for 10th prestige. They didn't earn it and to anyone with a brain it doesn't mean a damn thing. Yet there are a ton of people who are apparently willing to pay for it and then brag about it despite being absolutely terrible at the game.

Its the same mindset as people buying invites into guilds with trim, cape-leeching then going to RA and trying to brag about it. You didn't earn the cape, and anyone who actually pays attention to that sort of thing knows you didn't and will just simply laugh at you for thinking you are something you're not. I can't understand why people do it, but then again I don't want to. I get my enjoyment through things I work hard at accomplishing, not things given to me or things I cheated to get. I really wouldn't want to have it any other way.

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15 May 2010 at 01:42 - 472

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Originally Posted by vandevere

Problem is that that would nerf Mesmers and Rangers right into the basement...

Because DShot is a perfectly balanced skill

vandevere

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15 May 2010 at 02:06 - 473

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Because DShot is a perfectly balanced skill

Just one skill out of many.

My point was that you shouldn't gut whole classes into uselessness-thereby punishing legit players as well-if all you're doing is trying to get rid of bots.

Black Metal

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15 May 2010 at 02:52 - 474

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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja

Whats the point of even playing PvP any more?

fixed

I just read through all 7 pages of that thread. If Anet doesn't take a hard look at the next MAT, then they officially don't care what happens to this game. That thread is so full of evidence that PvP is completely infiltrated by bots, including many of the top guilds, that Anet would be COMPLICITE if they allowed it to continue.

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15 May 2010 at 03:21 - 475

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Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov

You know that's bull. Go to Fort Aspenwood. There are botters that have been there since atleast last summer. (A certain elementalist....I'm sure you know who.) He has Dishonorable hexes on him all the time. I've reported him. Others have. I've manually reported him through the ncsoft website. Point is, if they're actually looking at reports, they'd see that this asshat has been labeled a leecher (automatically by the system) and by several players since last year! I'm about 95% sure that reports go directly to limbo.

They don't care about Guild Wars 1 anymore. They've left it to waste away while they're working on Guild Wars 2. For now it feels like they're keeping GW1 servers running solely so they can make a few bucks out us retards (yes, me too) that keep paying them for novelities like costumes. Its sad, I know, but I can't see them taking great strides to help a five year old game. I want them to come out and do something because I do still enjoy aspects of this game (I spend a lot of time in FA.). so /signed. However, I don't have much faith in them doing anything. Not atleast anytime soon. I can really hope that Guild Wars 2 will be managed better.

If you manage to get a response out of Regina (didn't someone bring up bots to Gaile already?) or anyone, it will be similar to the response this person posted. No offense or anything. Chances are they won't bring the banhammer down this time or do anything remotely good for an old busted game.

What he said.
I planned on coming back to guild wars after a long break, but after reading this, and a couple threads on teamquitter I am definitely not coming back just to get slammed by some botters in competitive pvp. Unfortunately this will not effect my decision to buy guild wars 2, but it should. Pretty sad what guild wars has turned into.

Ninja Ninja

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15 May 2010 at 03:56 - 476

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Originally Posted by Primary Assassin

What he said.
I planned on coming back to guild wars after a long break, but after reading this, and a couple threads on teamquitter I am definitely not coming back just to get slammed by some botters in competitive pvp. Unfortunately this will not effect my decision to buy guild wars 2, but it should. Pretty sad what guild wars has turned into.

I can see this problem carrying over to gw2.

Sarevok Thordin

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15 May 2010 at 14:36 - 477

The worst part is the chat box has been compromised too thanks to what is going on.

I won't say anything more but I have read some damning things on another forum (only read because I won't touch the bot with a 20ft pole)

merek

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15 May 2010 at 15:33 - 478

Well,I am sorry to see this 24 page discussion on boting/ petition to get anet to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! lead to nothing.. sure they come to the forums to tell us about a typo they made with the latest update but nothing with boting! Why not even a comment in this forum or something?.. well it's ok for others to exploit the game and flood the market and make the market into a joke but I guess anet just wants to make sure that Aion is doing good or that they don't leak any info on GW2 .. so aggravating ..

/endrant

Scarlett Romanov

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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15 May 2010 at 16:20 - 479

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Originally Posted by merek

Well,I am sorry to see this 24 page discussion on boting/ petition to get anet to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! lead to nothing.. sure they come to the forums to tell us about a typo they made with the latest update but nothing with boting! Why not even a comment in this forum or something?.. well it's ok for others to exploit the game and flood the market and make the market into a joke but I guess anet just wants to make sure that Aion is doing good or that they don't leak any info on GW2 .. so aggravating ..

/endrant

Lol. Anet didn't make Aion. Its made by NCSoft.

The only comments you can see, a response so to speak, are on Gaile's talk page. Rants about how they DO ban people. (Yeah right, I almost posted a link here so people would purposely troll her for such shit.) We aren't getting a response. Anet is pretending this thread and problem do not exist.

Del

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15 May 2010 at 16:23 - 480

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Originally Posted by snaek

gw would be straight up garbage if the only classes in it were paragons, dervishes, assassins, and ritualists.

fixed that for you