Petition to Demand a Response from Anet on Botting

It kinda pisses me of the silence from anet.
Probably they cannot do anything right now but to be fair their lack of response just give the impression "it's safe to bot", the amount of botting is increasing in the game.
I see plenty of people who even started to bot with their main account, the sad thing is that i understand why they are doing it. I feel the pull of dark side myself.

Clearly you've never filed a ticket with support. Manually reporting bots gets you no where. I have done it not once, but several times with bots in FA. No bans. Those players are still playing several months after the reports.

Bots are in FA every day. Come to the Kurzick side. I can point a few out if you want to know who they are.

Four days and still no response? *sigh*

Maybe the title has something to do with it. " Petition to Demand a Response from Anet on Botting". I know when people demand things of me I turn a deaf ear to them.

Then someone move it to another name for all I care. Again, it's a legal term used by protesters. It's not meant to be rude.

I could have said "Petition to Sequester a Response on Botting" and it would have meant the exact same thing.

no matter what the title, anet wasn't going to respond...did you really think they would have?

/signed

because i don't like ungodly things like rupting 1/2 sec spells

Sequester also means to remove, withdraw or hide... I'm not sure if Anet would be adverse to hiding any such response...

How could anyone possibly not sign this?

/signed

Ironically, Gaile responded on my issue on wiki.

I'll quote it here for those who don't use wiki:

*This is not Gaile, but this is someone asking a question, posting it now because gaile replies to this question in particular
I still think Anet should release a public statement regarding these bots, because it's getting redicilous. I really didn't care that much about bots, because I've known them to be used in high end GvG for years now (Unlike the majority of ppl who believe they got created only recently: I saw interrupt bots, anti bull's bots and weaponswap bots in 2008 mAT's), but having recently HA'd, we faced an interrupt bot in about 1/5 matches. 20% doesn't seem much, but facing an interrupt bot who Powerblocks your prot on recharge, and pretty much interrupts EVERY spell of your midline caster aswell as channeling on the HB monk, the ONLY choice you have is to try and kill them before they can kill you. (You won't stay up longer than 2 minutes)

On top of that, there's 2-3 people in particular who always run the same Rt/A way with a bonder which takes forever to kill. Facing them pretty much means auto-loss (esp when rt/a way on it's on is already such a hard people to beat), which is also why you see such a large amount of Rt/A ways in HoH nowdays. (Atleast 2 out of the 4-5 guilds which occasionaly run it have a bot mesmer)

When a guild can place in the mATs with a bot program in their name and not get banned, then you know that Anet is full of shit.

Would be a funny guild name if they didn't use bots but they do so its just depressing.

well then...

there is the response:

Originally Posted by -- Gaile 04:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

again:
ok.. so that leaves us who to ask?!

no one it seems

Tbh, no matter what ANet does is not going to stop the botting issue. With the skeleton crew they have to support the game, their current detection methods are not good enough/fast enough to respond to the sheer volume of bots being used.
And while they could plug the current holes in the client application to make DLL injecting harder, this still won't stop things (thanks to Windows lol). People will find ways round the blocks and it will be a never ending cycle (after all, the underlying code of the client is over 5 years old).

What is needed is both the client and server to have a radical overhaul, redesign if you wish. That is the only way to curb this properly. But this won't happen I'm afraid, so it's hardly unsurprising that ANet are keeping quiet/responding as vaguely as ever.

Reading Gailes comments, I totally sympathize with Gaile and the rest of the people there, even if I am really mad about everything in gw at the moment. They are adults with jobs and they are being asked to baby sit a bunch of whining and cheating and scamming teenage computer wizzes and spank them if they were naughty. There really isnt enough time in the day to catch all these scammers and lamers in kamadan let alone botters everywhere else. I am sure if I owned the business it would come down to money. Do I hire some 40k a year employees to spend 8 hours a day investigating a bunch of whiners pointing fingers at each other and other players, or do I shift those 40k a year jobs into developing the next product that our shareholders expect. One generates no future income, and the other does. So as long as the problems stay contained and at acceptable levels (games will never be 100% free of scammers/cheaters because some of these computer nerds are as good as the developers at coding etc) then I know where I would put my resources if I was running the company. That level of containment (or support) changes over time as one product is phased out and another is ready to be released. That is the history of all products at all companies. I think we just have to deal with reality and get over it. You probably have less than a dozen people on gw1 issues now if even that, and they are probably not hard core programmers. Which might explain the Testes Krewe idea which was implemented to give them zero cost input to skill changes. (Of course that, imo, resulted in the worse skill changes ever and should be reverted which would put a lot of players back at an acceptable time vs. reward ratio and increase the player base, not chase them away.) If it were me running the business, I would maintain/contain cheating to an "acceptable loss" range with the smallest amount of resources, and instead spend most of my money and time on GW2. As a player I would not necessary want that, but it is not my money to spend so it is easy to bitch and complain and make demands of other people's time and money. Despite a few dozen of us on guru complaining, 99% of the fan base are casual players and would tell us to get a life. So change me to:

/sympathetic but still pissed off at everything and everyone gw and not gw related

(I am actually thinking of not becoming a troll anymore... I must be getting weak.)

@Tramp

good insight.. and after peeking at one the the major botting sites this morning... i see their ranks have went up 450+ registered users since this thread was started a few days ago.
(just 1 site)

to quote a line in the aliens movie.

that's it man.. game over... game over man... game over...

If you don't hold their feet to the fire, then they would never have a reason to even consider changing priorities or seeing how they can address the various problems.

How are we holding their feet to the fire?

Trashing them for being incompetent and letting their game be run into the ground on multiple forums? Do whatever you can really, and avoid the white-knight instinct to call for the closure of negative threads like this. Anet is in the business of making money and holds multiple jobs to maintain GW1. They don't need moral support, and players have a responsibility to raise as loud a stink as necessary proportional to the various festering problems.

Regina.

It is her job now, since she is the one that took over from Gaile as the community relations person. It isnt Gaile's job anymore so we really shouldn't be asking her.

I would suggest Lindsey too, but some people are getting pissed at the rate the WiK is coming out, so I wouldnt want to delay her any more