/signed.
Really, I can't believe they let it get so bad.
Petition to Demand a Response from Anet on Botting
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Terra Xin
I thought they had responded to botting already...
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by snaek
gw would be awesome if the only classes in it were paragons, dervishes, assassins, and ritualists.
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QueenofDeath
Just take out interupt skills and you'll kill 3 birds with one stone. Annoying interupts, mesmers and rangers. 
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snaek
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Originally Posted by Del
fixed that for you
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back on topic...
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Originally Posted by queenofdeath
Just take out interupt skills and you'll kill 3 birds with one stone. Annoying interupts, mesmers and rangers.
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Sarevok Thordin
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Originally Posted by snaek
interrupt bots will be gone sure, but what about the other kinds of bots such as the monk-enhancing bots? only more bots will continue to develop unless something is done or until they get bored (i.e. have moved on to gw2). |
Showtime
Anet wants you be done with GW so you will move on to GW2 in a year. In the meantime, they'd rather have a crapload of bots playing than empty servers.
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by Showtime
Anet wants you be done with GW so you will move on to GW2 in a year. In the meantime, they'd rather have a crapload of bots playing than empty servers.
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Septeric
after 25 pages and 12 days...
probably last time i'll chime in on this thread. just wanted to say 2 things.
1. thanks to the mods for keeping this thread open.
2. you just wait anet.. you ain't seen nothing yet... and its your own fault.
probably last time i'll chime in on this thread. just wanted to say 2 things.
1. thanks to the mods for keeping this thread open.
2. you just wait anet.. you ain't seen nothing yet... and its your own fault.
Sarevok Thordin
In terms of GW2 there looks to be ALOT more variables that are complex for a bot to pick up on going by the elementalist videos.
But godamn.....this isn't doing much good for people and this game hasn't been on steam too long yet.
But godamn.....this isn't doing much good for people and this game hasn't been on steam too long yet.
lemming
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Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov
Lol. Anet didn't make Aion. Its made by NCSoft.
The only comments you can see, a response so to speak, are on Gaile's talk page. Rants about how they DO ban people. (Yeah right, I almost posted a link here so people would purposely troll her for such shit.) We aren't getting a response. Anet is pretending this thread and problem do not exist. |
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Botter, eh? We love nailing botters. I know some people get one a high horse and say that we don't do anything about botters. But I see the reports and I know that we do. And players who are paying attention see "I was banned" threads every day on the fansite forums, leading them to realize "Yes, ArenaNet really is monitoring, researching, asking questions, taking extra looks, and terminating the accounts of those who cheat, exploit, and otherwise abuse the UA." I guess time will tell if this wrong-doer will be nabbed. Maybe it's not if. Maybe it's when. Personally, as a team member and as a player, I'm crossin' my fingers.
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merek
I am glad Gaile said that and all.. but all I want from Anet is for them to come ON THIS FORUM!! and say:
We appreciate your concerns and we are working on fixing the boting issue we haven't forgotten about GW1 and will not forget about it until GW2 comes out.
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We appreciate your concerns but we really don't care about guild wars 1 anymore.. we just want to make a few more dollars before GW2. So you just have to deal with the inflated market,farming bots,leeching bots,title bots, RA bots,JQ bots etc. etc. etc.
that's all I want please Anet.. you say you check the forums.. well respond
/endrant again
We appreciate your concerns and we are working on fixing the boting issue we haven't forgotten about GW1 and will not forget about it until GW2 comes out.
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We appreciate your concerns but we really don't care about guild wars 1 anymore.. we just want to make a few more dollars before GW2. So you just have to deal with the inflated market,farming bots,leeching bots,title bots, RA bots,JQ bots etc. etc. etc.
that's all I want please Anet.. you say you check the forums.. well respond
/endrant again
sunec
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Originally Posted by lemming
That's talking about someone using kuntz's client-side emote display, btw.
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It's pretty sad seeing how bot ranting posts are becoming more and more frequent, and ANet just gets even more quiet than before.
shoyon456
You can't demand anything from Anet. This thread won't do anything, and neither will anything you say.
The only thing that communicates a message clearly to large companies is money. Hurt their bottom line and they'll pay attention. If you're dissatisfied with something, don't buy from the in-game store, don't buy the novel when it comes out, and if you're really PO'd tell your friends to stay away from games with the Anet/NCSoft label on them (looking at GW2). That WILL get a response moreso than this little thread.
The only thing that communicates a message clearly to large companies is money. Hurt their bottom line and they'll pay attention. If you're dissatisfied with something, don't buy from the in-game store, don't buy the novel when it comes out, and if you're really PO'd tell your friends to stay away from games with the Anet/NCSoft label on them (looking at GW2). That WILL get a response moreso than this little thread.
Karate Jesus
Looks like this thread is going to make 30 pages, afterall.
Thanks mods for keeping this thread open and everyone else for letting Anet know what's going on. I've had a few conversations with TK members, and it appears that this is being pushed by the TK as well. Apparently, very few of the Live Team was aware of these issues.
It's beyond pathetic at this point that they haven't responded.
Thanks mods for keeping this thread open and everyone else for letting Anet know what's going on. I've had a few conversations with TK members, and it appears that this is being pushed by the TK as well. Apparently, very few of the Live Team was aware of these issues.
It's beyond pathetic at this point that they haven't responded.
Bob Slydell
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It's beyond pathetic at this point that they haven't responded.
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majoho
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Originally Posted by Septeric
2. you just wait anet.. you ain't seen nothing yet... and its your own fault.
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R_Frost
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Originally Posted by Terra Xin
I thought they had responded to botting already...
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lemming
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Originally Posted by sunec
Shoo, why are you creditting Kuntz for the Server-To-Client packet injection hack? He has nothing to do with it at all. We all know who made this shizzle (obvious eyes, obvious eyes).
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
You can't demand anything from Anet. This thread won't do anything, and neither will anything you say.
The only thing that communicates a message clearly to large companies is money. Hurt their bottom line and they'll pay attention. If you're dissatisfied with something, don't buy from the in-game store, don't buy the novel when it comes out, and if you're really PO'd tell your friends to stay away from games with the Anet/NCSoft label on them (looking at GW2). That WILL get a response moreso than this little thread. |
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Originally Posted by majoho
Should they be scared?
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shoyon456
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Originally Posted by lemming
We're trying to fix the game we're playing not right now, not the one that we might be playing in a year's time. |
DigitalFear
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
Indeed, but we have to remember that we're asking this from the same people who took what, well over a year (or was it two?) to legitimately buff shadow form.
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But your point's still valid nonetheless.
Missing HB
[bots] guild running 2 bot tease mesmers with 7 rupts ( no rez ) + bsurger . Monks cant cast anything , and melee cant hit , this is really getting annoying ... Some people do get banned because they have inapropriated name , but other are still messing everything
2_fingers
well... I've played Aion at the release... was a major disappointment -- bots were running all over the place, gold sellers were spamming in every city and outpost. I'm not too sure if NCsoft actually wants to figure out how to deal with bots. I dont even think many games can do it, or have the resources to figure out how. I suspect you'd still see bots running rampant even in GW2, even with the 'complex' mechanics. Anet/Ncsoft just needs to work on really waving the banstick. Maybe get a system like Warden from blizzard, idk.
GW1 is not likely to last very long at this rate. Neither will GW2 if this continues.
GW1 is not likely to last very long at this rate. Neither will GW2 if this continues.
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waste of time The GM's from NCsoft does nothing.
They just falsly ban you and then close it and make it final and ignore you.
As a player you have no rights just think twice before you play a ncsoft game
i would say
They just falsly ban you and then close it and make it final and ignore you.
As a player you have no rights just think twice before you play a ncsoft game
i would say
Darth The Xx
HA weekend ruined by the ridiculous amount of rupt botting. Why add a /report function if you're not going to do anything about it.
Ban a few and it will stop, once you bring out the ban hammer people will get scared and stop using them, if they don't ban the fags for all I care.
Ban a few and it will stop, once you bring out the ban hammer people will get scared and stop using them, if they don't ban the fags for all I care.
Martin Alvito
Does anyone else find it ironic that you can now play with seven heroes by cheating?
Just saying.
Just saying.
Jbrown
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Originally Posted by Missing HB
[bots] guild running 2 bot tease mesmers with 7 rupts ( no rez ) + bsurger . Monks cant cast anything , and melee cant hit , this is really getting annoying ... Some people do get banned because they have inapropriated name , but other are still messing everything
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fenix
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Originally Posted by 2_fingers
well... I've played Aion at the release... was a major disappointment -- bots were running all over the place, gold sellers were spamming in every city and outpost. I'm not too sure if NCsoft actually wants to figure out how to deal with bots. I dont even think many games can do it, or have the resources to figure out how. I suspect you'd still see bots running rampant even in GW2, even with the 'complex' mechanics. Anet/Ncsoft just needs to work on really waving the banstick. Maybe get a system like Warden from blizzard, idk.
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ANet just need to pick their act up and ban the more visible bots.
superraptors
like someone said
All the got to do, is do a mass banning on current dll injectors. Anet needs to implement 3rd party software/gamegaurd stuff or w/e and check for dll injections(Do it secretly without warning). 3/4 of GW pvp bots, not sure about pve. A mass suprise hit to all botters would scare alot of people. Keep doing it on a consisten basis. Its not hard to code blocking to accs who have dll injected. I mean anet if u can hear this, what are you paying your coders for, i could probably implement someshit that checks for dll injections. It really is not hard.
All they have to do is implment some VAC steam shit pretty sure its 3rd party so just buy the rights to it cause most likely they would also use it for gw2 aswell.
Say even though hackers are trying to bypass the 3rd party protection, they would have to spend hours and hours to develop coding and encrypting shit, this will atleast curb the amount of hackers.
Also you know what, 3/4 of gw know where to get the script and bots running these scripts from. It isnt hard for them to just look at the hacking code and counter it.
Anyways if they arent gonna do a update for gw1 to do this, im positive they will be doing this for gw2 however.
If they do it now, they will gain alot of players respect who probably wont buy gw2 because they arent doing anything to fix gw1 atm. This is putting off alot of legit pvp players and pve.
you can say dead game blablabla
my 2cents
All the got to do, is do a mass banning on current dll injectors. Anet needs to implement 3rd party software/gamegaurd stuff or w/e and check for dll injections(Do it secretly without warning). 3/4 of GW pvp bots, not sure about pve. A mass suprise hit to all botters would scare alot of people. Keep doing it on a consisten basis. Its not hard to code blocking to accs who have dll injected. I mean anet if u can hear this, what are you paying your coders for, i could probably implement someshit that checks for dll injections. It really is not hard.
All they have to do is implment some VAC steam shit pretty sure its 3rd party so just buy the rights to it cause most likely they would also use it for gw2 aswell.
Say even though hackers are trying to bypass the 3rd party protection, they would have to spend hours and hours to develop coding and encrypting shit, this will atleast curb the amount of hackers.
Also you know what, 3/4 of gw know where to get the script and bots running these scripts from. It isnt hard for them to just look at the hacking code and counter it.
Anyways if they arent gonna do a update for gw1 to do this, im positive they will be doing this for gw2 however.
If they do it now, they will gain alot of players respect who probably wont buy gw2 because they arent doing anything to fix gw1 atm. This is putting off alot of legit pvp players and pve.
you can say dead game blablabla
my 2cents
Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by superraptors
Do it secretly without warning
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Great idea. [*rolleyes*]
superraptors
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And then ban (with an automated suspension) all those who use KSMod with the dll-injection detector in place without knowing.
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Eragon Zarroc
just sounds to me like botting is ruining pvp. meh, pvp. 
Coverticus
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Originally Posted by superraptors
if ur dll injecting ur hacking srry
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I don't want to re-iterate any of this again, as it got tiresome earlier in this thread but certainly this is where ANet have to be very careful indeed.
Eragon Zarroc
Ying! how you doing man?! still playing or just posting some? ;-)
oops, a little off-topic there....uhhhh....BOTS ARE BAD!
oops, a little off-topic there....uhhhh....BOTS ARE BAD!
Missing HB
But i think it was said that Texmod was allowed ( obvious anyway , looking how hard ( but not impossible ) cartographer title is , with all bad corners , etc... ) .
Every PvP place is having more and more bots anyway ( especially HA ,but also GvG and RA ) , so i 'll say it again ( yes again :/ ) , if nothing is done , it would be nice to have one place where we can use heroes( or even henchs ) ( for ex full heroes in HA ) , so that you dont have to waste hours forming , resulting in a lose to bot ( which happens a lost these days ) , then everyone getting mad and leaving .
Every PvP place is having more and more bots anyway ( especially HA ,but also GvG and RA ) , so i 'll say it again ( yes again :/ ) , if nothing is done , it would be nice to have one place where we can use heroes( or even henchs ) ( for ex full heroes in HA ) , so that you dont have to waste hours forming , resulting in a lose to bot ( which happens a lost these days ) , then everyone getting mad and leaving .
Ninja Ninja
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And to all those innocent people using the ANet-approved TexMod, which also uses injection techniques?
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But i think it was said that Texmod was allowed ( obvious anyway , looking how hard ( but not impossible ) cartographer title is , with all bad corners , etc... ) .
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Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
Anet has never allowed or approved textmod usage, its just not something they go out and punish like botting.
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It's not a matter of "allowed" or not: a detector can't tell wether you're injecting for an allowed mod or for a bot, and will dish out a ban regardless. Unless they just implement a passive detector that allarms about injection, and then the eventual suspension is handled manually. Good luck then, they'll be getting millions of false allarms every hour, just because of the aforementioned mods.
So, they either make people aware of this BEFORE implementing it, or half this forum will likely end up having his/her account suspended all of a sudden. Fine with me, but as a KSMod user, I'd like to now wether such a feature is being implemented BEFORE being banned.
Eragon Zarroc
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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt
Fine with me, but as a KSMod user, I'd like to now wether such a feature is being implemented BEFORE being banned.
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Kattar
Texmod isn't really relevant to this discussion anyway. Let's not add pages of off topic chat for ANet to shift through.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Coverticus
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
Anet has never allowed or approved textmod usage, its just not something they go out and punish like botting.
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And while I agree with Kattar's statement to a degree, unfortunately a potential solution does bring TexMod into the conversation.
Back onto topic though - as a programmer myself, I would rather they take a more detailed approach and solution to this than just put in a quick fix that will, as Gil highlights, be an overwhelming amounts of false alarms. To me, what ANet do as the solution will have some sway in me buying GW2.
PS: Hi Eragon, long time no speak! -waves-