Worst Elite Skill

Veldan

Veldan

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

R/D

playing a ranger myself:

- lacerate - self explanatory
- escape (PvP) - it's only use was to use it on a melee for IMS, now it's useless
- equinox - see lacerate
- quick shot - I still don't know why they made this, basically you fire a normal arrow, but use a skill for it, so it costs energy and takes 1 second?

yitjuan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

GMT +8

redt

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Preservation. It always heals the wrong person at the wrong time.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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Defy pain. I once pugged a desert mission with a guy who actually thought he needed to run Defy pain to survive playing melee.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

I never found a reason for Poison Arrow.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin View Post
I never found a reason for Poison Arrow.
Poison arrow and barbed arrows is pretty nice in RA. Magebane is better, but if you suck at rupting, pressuring hard is a nice alternative.

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
Defy pain. I once pugged a desert mission with a guy who actually thought he needed to run Defy pain to survive playing melee.
Compared to some of the skills mentioned here(hello Amity) this skill isnt that bad. Certainly not the worst in the game.

Boogz

Boogz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Variable Speed Farmers[VsF]

Mo/

Amity hands down

Tender Care

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

MpF

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Anthem of Guidance.......useless in both pvp and pve

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Amity
Anthem of Guidance
Quick Shot
Grenth's Balance
Greater Conflagration
Healing Hands
Soul Leech
Illusionary Weaponry

And those are just the useless elites from prophecies

MuleGoon

MuleGoon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Veldan View Post
playing a ranger myself:

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- quick shot - I still don't know why they made this, basically you fire a normal arrow, but use a skill for it, so it costs energy and takes 1 second?
It used to be helpful with a "turret" ranger/archer. Used with Needling Shot, you could fire arrows very quickly on a foe with less than 50% health. Needling Shot got nerfed, so Quick Shot is now just a quick recharge attack skill. Not a bad skill, but a bad elite.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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Lots of worthless monk elites.

Wail of Doom is a pretty worthless Necro skill. Big deal, render a target ineffective for a whole 3 seconds and a 15 second recharge (and health sacrifice on top of that too).

How about OVERRATED elites? I think that reactive type hexes like Spiteful Spirit or Spoil Victor are massively overrated in this game. Given the power creep that had occurred, it has become incredibly more effective to just directly hammer the crap out of mobs and kill them outright.

I also think that Broad Head Arrow in PvE is completely anachronistic for the same reason.

Tyris Requiem

Tyris Requiem

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

UK

W/

Withdraw Hexes...

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

Unyielding Aura (PvP)

I Hate Chips

I Hate Chips

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

Why do you want to know where I live? Pervert.....

[TRL]

Me/A

Plague signet (plague sending is better as its a normal skill)
Second wind (I dont even know why this is an elite skill....)

I Hate Chips

I Hate Chips

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

Why do you want to know where I live? Pervert.....

[TRL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Veldan View Post
know why they made this, basically you fire a normal arrow, but use a skill for it, so it costs energy and takes 1 second?
U shouldnt spam Quick Shot just allone. Use Pentrating attack quick shot, (another bow attack) quick shot. THats the meaning of it I think.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

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Second Wind

12char

keli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Budapest

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
Lots of worthless monk elites.

Wail of Doom is a pretty worthless Necro skill. Big deal, render a target ineffective for a whole 3 seconds and a 15 second recharge (and health sacrifice on top of that too).

How about OVERRATED elites? I think that reactive type hexes like Spiteful Spirit or Spoil Victor are massively overrated in this game. Given the power creep that had occurred, it has become incredibly more effective to just directly hammer the crap out of mobs and kill them outright.

I also think that Broad Head Arrow in PvE is completely anachronistic for the same reason.
it is indeed big deal in PvP...
imo: gladiator's defense

Iron Monkey

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

New Dragons [NDR]

Mo/Me

I give you, Amity

KPEATOP

KPEATOP

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bulgaria

W/Mo



I can`t think of a better example that fits to this topic.
5 years in the game both PvE/PvP and during all that time the rangers have been using Apply Poison to put everything on poison.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

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I had a long list I was writing, all sorts of crappy skills. However I have found the champion.

Second Wind: Elite Spell. You gain 1 Energy for each point of Energy lost due to Exhaustion. You are Exhausted.

Because nothing helps combat exhaustion effects like even more exhaustion.


Amity, Word of Censure were close favorites

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Monkey View Post
I give you, Amity
I give you the Amity build. The best TA team gimmick that was ever created.http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1933/amitygurusafe.jpg

2 Me/Mo dom with pacifism and amity, 1 migraine/crippling anguish me/mo with pacifism, and a boon prot with pacifism.

RIGHTKaane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

| Righteous Indignation |

W/A

It is funny how old this thread is.

But yeah, as useless as things like Amity and Second Wind are, "The Power is Yours" truly is the most useless skill as an elite in the game. It would make sense if it was a normal skill as you could use it to keep up Echoes and gain energy for affecting team mates (though you might as well just use "Go For the Eyes!" since it is just as spammable, uses the same amount of Adrenaline, and actually has a positive team effect)

dancing gnome

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

R/Rt

What about Equinox? Ranger spirits are near useless let alone the ones which take up your elite slot.

Veldan

Veldan

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

R/D

Poison arrow is not useless. Barbed arrows + poison arrow is the magic combo, you can spread long lasting 7 degen on foes with an 1 second cooldown, it's simply awesome. Used to run it in AB / FA .

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Broadhead Arrow

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIGHTKaane View Post
It is funny how old this thread is.

But yeah, as useless as things like Amity and Second Wind are, "The Power is Yours" truly is the most useless skill as an elite in the game. It would make sense if it was a normal skill as you could use it to keep up Echoes and gain energy for affecting team mates (though you might as well just use "Go For the Eyes!" since it is just as spammable, uses the same amount of Adrenaline, and actually has a positive team effect)
The Dagger or Scythe spam paragon builds really shine if you can spam both "The Power is Yours!" and "Go for the Eyes!". I agree it's effects are pretty useless but the build does need a second spammable adrenal based shout to keep up energy.

And yes, as someone mentioned, Equinox is awful.

Lord Mip

Lord Mip

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Somewhere in a distant land..

Reign of Judgement [RoJ]

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I present thee: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Second_Wind

Second Wind!

FabioLyone

FabioLyone

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

R/

second wind..mantra of recall

shadows of hob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

Mo/Me

All elementalist elites in HM.

Bellatrixa

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

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Imo Amity and Second Wind draw on this one. Both induce the -facepalm- factor.

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

Second Wind is underrated. Cancel it twice -> Enjoy your 25 net Energy gain on a 5 second recharge.

ruk1a

ruk1a

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

UR MOM LOL

ATTACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOES

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Mip View Post
I present thee: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Second_Wind

Second Wind!
oh my GOD why does that exist lol

Love Traine

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2011

Jamaica

The Tastiest Teabag [tea]

W/Rt

flourish or primal rage =P

irundroks

irundroks

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

I don't even know

Through The Eyes Of The Dragon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadows of hob View Post
All elementalist elites in HM.
ether renewal says 'hi.'

Still Number One

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIGHTKaane View Post
It is funny how old this thread is.

But yeah, as useless as things like Amity and Second Wind are, "The Power is Yours" truly is the most useless skill as an elite in the game. It would make sense if it was a normal skill as you could use it to keep up Echoes and gain energy for affecting team mates (though you might as well just use "Go For the Eyes!" since it is just as spammable, uses the same amount of Adrenaline, and actually has a positive team effect)
I don't see how a skill that has seen serious use in high end GvG is more useless then a skill like second wind.

And for proof that "The Power is Yours" does/did actually have a significant job in motivation paragon builds : http://www.gw-memorial.net/nav/b_mat_i.php?id=375

granted, its main purpose was to keep mending refrain and aggressive refrain up, but the skill saw use which kinda disqualifies it from, "Worst Elite Skill" when there are skills in the game that don't even fill a niche role.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Second Wind would be borderline usable if it were a 1s cast. I can't help but think that the only reason it's 2s is because Anet was afraid of people being too dumb to figure out how to cancel a skill without moving during the cast.

Still Number One

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Second Wind would be borderline usable if it were a 1s cast. I can't help but think that the only reason it's 2s is because Anet was afraid of people being too dumb to figure out how to cancel a skill without moving during the cast.
I'm not sure it would even be borderline usable even if it had a 1s cast just because there are better, and easier ways to maintain your energy then having to manage a proper level of exhaustion on yourself in order to receive a decent benefit from the skill. But I'd have to actually give it a try before I'd write it off completely.

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIGHTKaane View Post
It is funny how old this thread is.

But yeah, as useless as things like Amity and Second Wind are, "The Power is Yours" truly is the most useless skill as an elite in the game. It would make sense if it was a normal skill as you could use it to keep up Echoes and gain energy for affecting team mates (though you might as well just use "Go For the Eyes!" since it is just as spammable, uses the same amount of Adrenaline, and actually has a positive team effect)
At least TPIY has uses. Amity does not.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIGHTKaane View Post
It is funny how old this thread is.

But yeah, as useless as things like Amity and Second Wind are, "The Power is Yours" truly is the most useless skill as an elite in the game. It would make sense if it was a normal skill as you could use it to keep up Echoes and gain energy for affecting team mates (though you might as well just use "Go For the Eyes!" since it is just as spammable, uses the same amount of Adrenaline, and actually has a positive team effect)
TPIS - It's had its glory days. Also dont let the captain planet line determine your overall judgment of this skill

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadows of hob View Post
All elementalist elites in HM.
Searing Flames says hi as well

Quote:
Originally Posted by Love Traine View Post
flourish or primal rage =P
Flourish - Not all knowing but I believe this skill has never known love
Primal Rage - may as well stick in frenzy and opt for another elite

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Seen many good examples of uselessness on this thread.

Equinox - waste of an elite slot /facepalm
Second Wind - Prob takes first place trophy of complete s**t
Amity - just what gws needs... an elite pacifism. Guess it does have a use to piss melee off though.

How about Decapitate? Its a piece of crap compared to other warrior elites in pve. I've seen people try and use this in pvp back when I was a gvg geek for spikes and didn't contribute anything over Eviscerate + Body Blow, then what does the warrior contribute afterward? Nothing. As long as Eviscerate is around this skill is complete trash.

The Baphomet

The Baphomet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2009

CST / UTC -6

In Memorium [iBot]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
Flourish - Not all knowing but I believe this skill has never known love
Flourish Assassin
standard hammer/weapon swap and full recharge chain.
Basically if unprotted or rupted (good luck) you could kill or near kill every 5 seconds... one chain after another

I think its on gwpvx.

Also flourish rangers.