Worst Elite Skill

Raul the Rampant

Raul the Rampant

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Wisconsin

[LaiD]

R/

Well I haven't seen any Ele mains step forward and defend [Second Wind], so I'm going to have to vote for that. It's unlinked, but requires an investment in E-storage to actually be useful and that roughly half of that pool to be maintained exhaustion... seems like it is entirely inferior as energy management and would maybe even cause problems when swapping weapon sets. Am I missing something?

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

Balthazar's Pendulum. Never seen anyone actually use this.

Short

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormX View Post
Balthazar's Pendulum. Never seen anyone actually use this.
It was meta in TA before the duration was nerfed.

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
Because using your elite skill to spread poison a little faster isn't that effective.
given the state of a lot of ranger elites its as effective as any other and in Pressure meta Fast Poison Spreading is good

Short

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by dusanyu View Post
given the state of a lot of ranger elites its as effective as any other and in Pressure meta Fast Poison Spreading is good
Apply Poison and Needling Shot tbh. Don't waste your elite.

ll Jamie ll

ll Jamie ll

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Devon, England.

Desolation Lords [DL]

E/Mo

Quick shot sure gets my vote..

Master of Magic and Shadow Meld also get a second vote from me. (they probably fit a role in some builds as a good elite skill, but overall i think they are a couple of the worst) There are indeed others.
I agree, ANet must have been smoking something. :P

Short

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ll Jamie ll View Post
Quick shot sure gets my vote..

Master of Magic and Shadow Meld also get a second vote from me.
I agree, ANet must have been smoking something. :P
Shadow Meld is HB Meta, but I suppose HB isn't played that much by the general population.

Shrivelling Fire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Moar skills when drunk [burp]

E/

Second wind. Without a doubt.
i did a test with this the other day.
Got myself down to 40 energy with room for about 20 more. Rest of the bar was exhausted. i Ended up going to 50 energy. So i gained 10 energy and a bit more exhaustion?. Absolutely hopless. hmm i want energy management on an ele.
lets look at my options : Second wind. oh thats crap. Hi there attunement. Hello glyph of lesser. How you doing aura of restoration (minorly)

ll Jamie ll

ll Jamie ll

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Devon, England.

Desolation Lords [DL]

E/Mo

Id also like to add that Order of Undeath (necro) is a skill i really hate to use. It's like a suicide skill if you ask me. (havn't seen many people use it either, lol.)

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by ll Jamie ll View Post
Order of Undeath
OoU is the elite for player MM's. The armor-ignoring damage it adds is beautiful. The only other option is the new Aura of the Lich, and when you compare the two it's not even close.

The only reason you may not have seen it is because people use heroes for MM instead of humans anymore. Don't feel bad though, Izzy felt the same way and tried to change it, then had to change it back due to necro outcry.

Still not seeing anything that outclasses Shroud of Silence in my book.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

[Soldiers Stance]

Not even a paragon would use this since there's [Soldier's Fury] which is far superior.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
[*]Archer's Signet (alright! I get to extent conditions! ....with my bow.....um, never mind)
Someone mentioned using it with the Asuran skill Technobabble to extend the AoE Daze to a whole 10 seconds. I haven't tried it though.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
Someone mentioned using it with the Asuran skill Technobabble to extend the AoE Daze to a whole 10 seconds. I haven't tried it though.
It would work (especially with a silencing bowstring), but it's still kind of a waste.

Even at max Asuran Rank, Archer's Signet + a silencing bowstring only make Technobabble's daze last 12 seconds. BHA + epidemic can last much longer (even w/o a silencing bowstring).

Evil Eye

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

P/Me

Amity sucks a lot.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

My vote is for Amity and Mark of Protection

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mark of Protection makes you invincible for 10 seconds. It should have its recharge reduced to 30s though.

glacialphoenix

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

Voting Amity. I have no idea what that skill is for.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by glacialphoenix View Post
Voting Amity. I have no idea what that skill is for.
Pissing off your team, by using a stupid elite? ;d

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
Pissing off your team, by using a stupid elite? ;d
rofl That about covers it. It's basically the elite version of Pacifism and Binding Chains. I hate when the Outcast ritualists use Binding Chains because somehow they don't do damage to you until it ends; if you were doing PVP and had that, it would barely last a second on the person you cast it on.

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf View Post
rofl That about covers it. It's basically the elite version of Pacifism and Binding Chains. I hate when the Outcast ritualists use Binding Chains because somehow they don't do damage to you until it ends; if you were doing PVP and had that, it would barely last a second on the person you cast it on.
You forgot something , has a 45 sec recharge , lol at that. Maybe is only worth to keep down shiro while doing the extra a few seconds ? pfffffff , nah . That skill is hella far from being "elite" .

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

(based on what i'd like to see changed, not necessarily what is the worst)
[ravenous gaze], [signet of suffering]

zigalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

A/Mo

THE POWER IS YOURS! paragon skill. most useless elite ever.... scratch that, most USELESS SKILL ever.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by glacialphoenix View Post
Voting Amity. I have no idea what that skill is for.
Based on the name, they should change it to something like:

Elite Skill - Non-Boss foe becomes ally for "x" seconds

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
Based on the name, they should change it to something like:

Elite Skill - Non-Boss foe becomes ally for "x" seconds


The ONLY fun I've ever gotten out of [skill]Amity[/skill] is running it in RA. I'd wait until 3 warriors were ready to gank me, cast Amity, then dance for 18 seconds or so! The rage was classic!

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

I personally don't like Cautery Signet. Remove all conditions from all party members and get set on fire? Ouch, that's some bad gratitude. But in all seriousness, I'm sure it's okay if used properly but I think there are better elites out there.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

Second Wind
Withdraw Hexes
/thread.

Why is almost nobody discussing these elites? Withdraw Hexes should've been buffed before, and not PnH. Mainly because the name is... Withdraw Hexes. Peace And Harmony was actually useful in 600/Smite and such as a +1 energy regen. Next... Second Wind. Gain 10 energy, lose 10% of your max energy. It's completely retarded.

Hellscream The Evil

Hellscream The Evil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sigh

N/

Equinox ftw!!!!!!!!! lol

Mad Lord of Milk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Dishonorable Hall of Fame

R/W

Any and all Dervish Avatar skills

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lord of Milk View Post
Any and all Dervish Avatar skills
1. Because they got nerfed into oblivion

2. They are not useless in PvE -Eternal Aura. But then again, there is no balance in pve so...

Bloodseeker

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Signet of Suffering is kinda useless.

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

This post was made back in 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid View Post
After many chapters keystone sig will be GOD.
I don't need to point out how wrong predictions can go

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf View Post
I personally don't like Cautery Signet. Remove all conditions from all party members and get set on fire? Ouch, that's some bad gratitude. But in all seriousness, I'm sure it's okay if used properly but I think there are better elites out there.
at least is better than Martyr

Cautery sig is good IMO because you can clean all your party of conditions with it + a mending touch

the worst skill for me is stone sheath...

and searing flames when only used by 1.
I still don't get why people bother to use it when other eles on their team are using meteor shower/savannah heat/teinais, etc

Mad Lord of Milk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Dishonorable Hall of Fame

R/W

Magehunter's Strike

I win

Raela79

Raela79

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2008

AZ

(LOVE)

Me/

Energy Drain gets my vote, essentially the same as energy tap with a faster casting time but it's a waste of an elite imho

Joraala

Joraala

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Descendants of Honor [DH]

Mo/

Amity/Mark of Protection

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

P/

This is a pretty old thread. 2006!

My vote also goes for amity. Sure there are plenty of bad elites but none are as utterly useless as amity.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Withdraw hexes wins everything for all time. It doesn't even have a chance of being reworked some day.

Delete HB Already

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2009

none of yo business

W/Mo

PvP: UA and signet of ghostly might
Pve: skull crack and your all alone and quicksand are bad

Both: keystone signet, stone sheath, Extend conditions, Archers signet

Joraala

Joraala

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Descendants of Honor [DH]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delete HB Already View Post
PvP: UA and signet of ghostly might
Pve: skull crack and your all alone and quicksand are bad

Both: keystone signet, stone sheath, Extend conditions, Archers signet
Keystone is godly now :P

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delete HB Already View Post
PvP: UA and signet of ghostly might
Pve: skull crack and your all alone and quicksand are bad

Both: keystone signet, stone sheath, Extend conditions, Archers signet
Quote:
Originally Posted by celexia View Post
Keystone is godly now :P
Agreed. Keystone is an awesome Elite now. I use it on my Mesmer.

And off-topic like I said in another thread, what is with the rezzing of old threads? >.<