Chest Farming

It's okay. For this barrel, you just need to basically know where it is.

EDIT: And if these chests/barrels/whatever are completely removed, then we wouldn't have a "minimal difference" between players in terms of gold. It would make it harder for the poor to get gold, and that's about it, imo.

I'm no economic expert, but I believe that ANet is going the wrong way in terms of farming. Instead of making it nigh-impossible to farm, they should just find ways so that you wouldn't need to in the first place, but if you wanted to, you could. Some people, myself included, actually enjoy farming.

Shadowsting, you put words together in a way that I could not. That EXACTLY sums up my view on farming. ArenaNet should make it unnecessary, but let you be ablt to do it anyways. I also enjoy farming. And I also love the feel of opening up a chest and seeing "Opening the chest has revealed a rare Hale Air Staff of Fortitude that your party has reserved for Graeme Williams."

I'm no economic expert, but I believe that ANet is going the wrong way in terms of farming. Instead of making it nigh-impossible to farm, they should just find ways so that you wouldn't need to in the first place, but if you wanted to, you could. Some people, myself included, actually enjoy farming.

This is exactly what they claim to be working on but in the meantime they needed to do something instead of just allowing excessive farming to continue until the new system is in place.

Wow, that makes me über happy!

I'm so glad that they see our view on things after all, this totally changes my view on ArenaNet.

I mostly agree with that, also the farming sentiment - it's quite enjoyable trying to push the limits of what your character can handle by itself. The problem right now is that the game heavily rewards going out on your own: the same loot drops, but everything goes straight into your pocket instead of having to divide it with others (some even claim the loot found solo is better than in a group). For a game that is based around teamwork, that's just very awkward - if solo farming gives you the best items, best gold and best experience in the fastest and least cumbersome fashion, how can they expect people not to participate in it?

The problem with removing the need to farm can be seen with the rune trader. Most runes can easily be bought by just about anyone now (120g for superior fast casting the most obvious example), but a large number of PvE'ers screamed bloody murder about this. They wanted finding superior runes to be a challenge, not something just handed to everyone on a silver platter - they wanted to remain better than others by having spent X more hours in the game. It hollows out the PvE game: the thrill of finding items/gold and becoming more powerful as a character as you spend more hours diminishes, and that appears to be exactly what the 'bad' farmers want: to be so filthily rich that they can dominate the economy and laugh at 'newbs' offering their measly life savings for the least powerful item they picked up in their last run. It's one of the last remaining ways in GW to be stronger than someone else just by spending more time.

But that's the thing with Guild Wars: it never intended to give you a grind game like World of Warcraft, yet somehow it did, trying to balance halfway between an FPS and a MMORPG. It might turn out that it cannot be successful in being both, but I really hope ArenaNet manages to find an optimal balance between the two that is fun for most people.

Actauly getting a +5 energy wouldnt be a problem for a chest farmer in divinity. Because there is plenty of chance for it to drop.


I decided to check out the divinity one, I got 1 or more rares from the barrels each time in 7 out of 8 runs. And on the eighth run I got 2 purples. It was by then I decided to stop.

If I were to chest farm Id go do it at my old place, its like 5k for a half hour or more of work. But the divinity one makes me feel guilty.

I know for a fact that if not tommarow, then tuesday. Divinity WILL be nerfed. And within good reason.

There is something wrong with that whole zone, even the seeds are dropping purples.

I know a sulotion, chests should only appear if you kill a group of enemys associated to it. Or like have them locked and a nearby enemy drops a key.

Chests appearing as a reward for killing a group sounds like an excellent idea, it directly links them to the effort of destroying the group (i.e. actually playing the game). Ofcourse that still makes it appealing to go out on your own to kill them, but that's a seperate issue.

This is bad, what that does is keeps the items worth nothing, everyone can get max mods and weapons. You get newbies running around with stormbows that boost there health +30 and do 15% more damage, just because they were able to afford it.

This causes me to refer back to RuneScape again. That game has a very well run economy. If you want the best helmet in the game, you have to spend 3 months of hard labor to get it. Or get a good group and go slay dragons that could drop it. Witch takes about a month to get a drop like that anyway. Also the way to make money fast, required you spent atleast 5 months of straight training in minning or smithing. And it was simple, minners sold rune ore to the smithers for 10k each, and the smithers took 5 (50k) and smithed up a 70k armor piece.

BUT, the minning was nothing as easy as running out to the chests, once you got out to a rune minning spot, there were PvPers waiting to prey on you once you filled with rune ore, and if you find a safe world to stay on, it takes well over 10 minutes for those 2 rocks to respawn after you minned them.

As for money sinks, there were plenty. Its extremely hard to save up in that game. Not to mention the rare items that only dropped on holidays going up in the market. (The rotten tomatos at the arena is the most genious money sink ever)

Now Guild Wars is a totaly differnt game! There is no minning, there is no losing your items when you die (Thank god). Money grows on trees in this game as it is, and you guys are speeding it up more.

The economy is falling out that way.

Yes, I very much like that idea of chests dropping/becoming available as result of a trigger, like killing a certain enemy. I agree also, that the DC area must be bugged, else things would't drop there like that. But, since I feel they nerfed everywhere else so badly, going there every once in awhile is ok with me.

Edit: Haha, I used to play Runescape also, and I think that there should be more money sinks in this game just like in RS. See my thread at http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25569 .

All so many good ideas but rarely will they be seen by anet and if they do happen to come across it, it will be a twisted and different version of what someone thought of with no credit to them. If you take the chests away, there will be a mass increase of all weapon and upgrade prices. Alot of people who dont know about farming get a good load of items from chests just dropping by while doing a mission or off to some quest. The hard working players who sell items for 100k+ are doing it by finding them in the underworld or higher lvl places, not by farming. Im not saying the people who farm have no talent and arent bent on getting great items, but farming chests give some players who may not excell in the game a chance to have some sort of wealth. The places listed here will not make you tons of money unless you find upgrades since divinity coast and even in the desert do not give you max dmg items nor anything more worthy then selling to the merchant. I started farming just a few days ago and before that, I was lvl 20 at thristy river and found my first rare item. A decent sword that sold for 3.6k. I then began to do divinity coast runs just yesterday and got more rare items but most go to the merchant or are salvaged for materials cause they just arent worth trying to sell to other players.

Running back and forth to the chest is also not an exploit either. If that was the case then it an exploit in diablo 2 to keep killing only baal's minions to get to lvl 99 and get the best items from running every boss a million times. It is bad to be running bots to get the chest cause thats unfair to other players that actual try to play the game. If anet wanted to really get rid of the bots, they would put in some sort of protection that would detect certain botting programs to be stopped.

I think thats actually quite a good idea, they could then contoll the level of farming on certain spots by changing the difficulty of the mobs.

Well obviously if you can kill them alone, you are not going to get much good from the chest.

Maybe a 8-11 sword, that is very apealing to those that came out of pre-searing, but isnt gonna earn a level 20 much profit.

Secondly I dislike the idea of upgrade sellers as mentioned in a few other threads, because you saw the damage it did to runes and there pricing.

Now this game is young, Runescape is a fairly old game, and people are smart enough not to sell a 100k sword to a market that will buy for 200 gold, and thats why you cant buy them there, because no one sells them that way. When the rune trader in this game came out, everyone sold their runes because no one would pay jack for those minor mesmer runes. I think the market needed ore time to evolve and settle.

This leads back to chest farming, how can the market settle if COOPMAN is selling his +25 HP Bow upgrade for 30k, and CHESTMAN is selling for 2k?

I don't play Run! Escape! anymore, but then again, considering that I never became a member, there's only 2% of the game I saw (which is mostly why I left, everytime you tried to do something..... "This gate can only be opened on a member's server.")

And I pray to God that A-Net doesn't continue along this "trader" path, or else before long, we'll have "component" Traders or "Modification" trader, and then any schmageggy can get a perfect item.

It will be nerfed by Wednesday. If an area is profitable, it gets nerfed. Oh well. I'll be at camp while that happens, but still........Anyway, I agree that the Watchtower Barrel is too good. It should be nerfed. But I'm going to get the most out of it before that happens.

At that point, there isnt a reason to play the game anymore. I would be to easy to get anything thus anet would be lieing when they say this game needs to be played with skill and not hours spent.

Yes indeed. If the trader deal keeps happening, the will of many people to play the game will be lost. Items will become much too attainable. There has to be some difficulty in getting a very good item.

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That's the main issue between PvE and PvP. In typical PvE games you spend X hours to build a character, and if you spent Y more hours than someone else, you'll be stronger. GW proposed this doesn't need to be the case, and made it so that rare equipment and such doesn't significantly influence how powerful you are (and at that they've succeeded quite well).

Because of that, I don't think GW will change much if everyone gets to run around with +5 energy insightful staff heads and such, just that PvE players who like to farm/grind will get what they want too quickly for their tastes. I like to look at it like this: all new players can buy superior runes now, but their choice of skills and inexperienced playing style still makes sure they're much, much weaker than someone with minor runes who knows what he/she is doing. It'll be the same with upgrades. I think Guild Wars just isn't a game tailored to hardcore farming/grinding like RuneScape is. There's other ways to get your jollies here, doesn't mean farming/grinding is impossible, but I don't think it's reasonable to be upset when they remove the incentive/point to farming/grinding.

Okay....Im going to try and ask this without being flamed..Could someone PLEASE Pm me some nice chest farming spots, maybe some that have Salvage armors..Im as far as Droknars Forge (ascended) and am a W/Mo Thanks guys..And by the way..I have a flame resistant suit on..So dont try..I wont respond.

maybe youve been to busy typing long complaints/rants, but the game has pretty much already reached that point... maybe not to the most extreme of situations, but no one can afford anything unless you have done at least some farming before ad amassed a large enough sum to keep your head above water

Ill post this for the literally 15 people who cant search a topic.

I saw it stryker..And i tried it for a while..Got a few rares, and alot of purples, but useless purples at that..Im looking for things such as Salvage Armors now, so i can get runes, along with the occasional nice item.. Anyone have a good spot for that.?